SSF should be more rewarding to play. I'm not a masochist for pete sakes...

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SaintLessLegend#6078 schrieb:

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GGG has led PoE to be a trade-driven economy. Although the jest of what I am saying is that SSF is a self-driven economy. Rationally speaking the reason why a game like D2/D2R has no issues in an offline mode. Largely is due to the foundation of the game revolving around a self-driven economy with trade being secondary. I'd argue this is why the vast majority of ARPGs to single-player games are successful despite having an online feature for trading or co-op loot based gameplay.

My point, being that GGG should of acknowledged that the core foundation of their standard league directly contradicts an SSF mode. In implementing this mode without balancing it to fit a genuine self-driven economy. Despite being enjoyable for some it largely is flawed and does not respect the players time-investment.

Hence why I wish PoE2 had vendor recipes similar to PoE1 or a crafting bench to enable less rng and better target farming. In my opinion GGG looked at resource allocation and said it was too much work to balance SSF but they wanted to satisfy that margin of the community so they released it as is with a loot system that still revolves around a trade-economy. Then suggested it was their intention to make it more difficult, I don't buy that though. I think it was just easier for them. [EDIT] I also don't blame them for doing this if my opinion is correct cause that's what logically make sense from a business stand point.

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Sakanabi#6664 schrieb:

Thank you. This helped alot. Now I probably understand your point of view and I must admit that I also miss vendor recipes - it was something rather unique and I liked PoE 1 for its replacement of gold with orbs. Thanks to this and missing crafting bench there are less obvious options for SSF players in PoE 2. But I think this will change after one or two another leagues. Right now there is still too much missing. New options will appear definitely.

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TheModestManiac#1990 schrieb:

one billion percent yes. buff SSF drop rates. would fix a lot wrong with the game for me rn.

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SaintLessLegend#6078 schrieb:

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de99ial#0161 schrieb:

As an SSF forever player i say: no.

That's chill, as an enjoyer of SSF or singleplayer balanced games that respect your time-investment, I say: yes.

wow that was fun!

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Dont like ssf, go back to trade whats the deal?

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SaintLessLegend#6078 schrieb:

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KaosuRyoko#1633 schrieb:

SSF is a challenge mode that should remain exactly the way it is. GGG so far has never given any indication they're ever considering this despite it being broth up weekly since it came out basically. You choose to make the game harder, don't cry to other people because of your decisions imo.

Eh I respect and thank you for just shooting it straight.

Unfortunately, I would go as far as to say the reason GGG doesn't change anything is not because it was originally designed to be "harder". Rather resource management and priorities at GGG were not focused on delivering a genuine SSF experience and it was easier to design it as they did. By simply removing trade. Rebalancing the game I guess was just not in the cards.

Companies will say oh we intentionally did it this way... Although if you just look at it, really just look at it for what it is. More likely than not, they just didn't care to go through the whole rebalance stuff and it was easier to just give a no-trade mode to satisfy a margin of their playerbase.

Logically to me it doesn't make sense. As I responded to others... If GGG's led PoE1 standard to be a self-driven economy with trade being secondary. I don't believe as you said above that people would be complaining weekly... The very fact that people are bringing this up shows that there is a conversation to be had. Whether GGG cares to come to the table or not is another thing.

The reason D2 or D2R works and is still played over 20 years later. Is due to how the game is balanced around a Self-Driven economy with trade being secondary. GGG made a gamble and don't get me wrong I think it was the right choice. Trade-league brings in so much money and traffic for them.

Of course GGG can design SSF however they damn please but from my perspective (my opinion). This is a flawed implementation of SSF that is neglected for the sake of "hardcore parkour" masochism excuses.