[Feedback] Giga-Nerf Energy Shield in Patch 0.4.0

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CharlesJT#7681 schrieb:

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Oinkaments#6390 schrieb:

Yes and I'm not surprised about that. This is all the information anyone reading this thread, including the GGG dev team, needs to know about your vision of the game.

D2 is far superior than PoE1... it's not even close.

I hope GGG can make PoE2 to be the GOAT, surpassing D2.

That's giving all the accolades to GGG for PoE2.

Everyone agrees D2 was the best in the genre. That has nothing to do with the fact you hate POE 1.

That’s like walking into a freshly renovated Chinese restaurant and going:

"Listen, I’ve never liked Chinese food in my life. But I sincerely hope the pizza you don’t serve is absolutely divine. Also, could you please scrap your entire menu, because I don’t care if every single one of your customers came here specifically for dumplings, I demand a pepperoni pizza, since the Italian place near me called 'Papi Roni' shut down and I’m still grieving."

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Oinkaments#6390 schrieb:

That has nothing to do with the fact you hate POE 1.

I hated PoE1 mostly because the gems went into armour slots. Never liked that approach to itemization, just my personal preference. Gladly, PoE2 itemization is far superior.

To be honest, the PoE2 community seems to be open to players coming from the D2 community and offering fresh ideas to GGG. I hope PoE2 moves toward D2 and away from PoE1. I see alot of D2 in PoE2, which is fantastic.

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Oinkaments#6390 schrieb:

Everyone agrees D2 was the best in the genre.

Look, we finally agree on something.

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CharlesJT#7681 schrieb:

A wizard wearing cloth should not be "tankier" than a warrior wearing platemail.

But that's not actually cloth that protects a wizard but a magic barrier called Energy Shield. So magic barrier being stronger than ordinary metal actually makes alot of sense.

I'm not even investing into ES, Live your best life not someone elses.

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CharlesJT#7681 schrieb:

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Oinkaments#6390 schrieb:

Everyone agrees D2 was the best in the genre.

Look, we finally agree on something.

till someone asks:
"classic or LOD?" XD

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AintCare#6513 schrieb:

till someone asks:
"classic or LOD?" XD

We all know classic is the OG. :)

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AceNightfire#0980 schrieb:

- Life characters usually have evasion/armor, which reduces or even negates damage taken, while ES users always get 100% of the damage

So instead of nerfing ES, I suggest to add some +2-3% max life on certain medium nodes on the passive tree. Because every character will get medium nodes at some point and having some additional +3% max life on their will certainly help to buff life users without nerfing ES to hell.

I agree with this. there are no need to nerf anything but give more acces to life on the tree for EV/armour players. It doesnt have to be as much as the energy shield because you take less damage overall. But we need a bit more life i feel. That would be enough to balance the difference imo.

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BlastYa#4875 schrieb:

there are no need to nerf anything but give more acces to life on the tree for EV/armour players.

The problem is that would be trivializing the game with all this added life, better to nerf ES now to maintain a challenging game. Otherwise, PoE2 devolves into D4 clone garbage. I hope GGG keeps true to their vision of visceral combat.

As someone who recently hit 10k ES, I've already had some scenarios where I suddenly got slapped and lost 3/4 of it without seeing why. If ES gets nerfed, there's going to be a lot of 1shots out of nowhere.

"Now you know how armor/evasion life builds feel", you may argue.

Buff those defenses so they feel as strong as ES or nerf monsters to prevent potential 1shots first. It's bad enough that PoE 1 has unfair rippy encounters that you don't see until it's already too late, it shouldn't be a staple in PoE 2.

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Pizzarugi#6258 schrieb:

As someone who recently hit 10k ES

I think 10k ES is way too much. As endgame Life builds have around 2-3K life, the max ES at endgame should be double that of life, which is around 4-6K ES.

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Pizzarugi#6258 schrieb:

or nerf monsters

Absolutely not. Monsters are already too easy, don't want to remove any more challenge from the game.