Have no interest in starting over in new league

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AverBeg7#1689 schrieb:

To say that a live service ARPG having fresh starts with exclusive content is "psychological manipulation", is wrong. I have already laid out why, multiple times

No. You've just said that, multiple times.

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AverBeg7#1689 schrieb:

I am speaking about the health of the game, the enjoyment of the community

Same. There are clearly multiple playerbases that each find enjoyment around different aspects of the game. Why not cater to them both?

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AverBeg7#1689 schrieb:

your replies are all "me, and players like me, don't care". It's hardly an argument.

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LeFlesh#9979 schrieb:

Well wait a minute: if this divides the playerbase, then that means the F R E S H economy isn't actually the true thing that draws players back- it's the novel content.

So which is it?

Why can't it be both?

You truly make yourself out to be completely clueless when it comes to how ARPGs survive and thrive. This opposition to fresh starts is all in your head. Just give it a go, you'll have fun.

Anyway, I think I've said everything I have to say pertaining to this issue in every way I can. I hope maybe it helps you understand more than your own perspective is involved in decisions that impact the entire game and community.

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AverBeg7#1689 schrieb:

Why can't it be both?

Exactly. So why not support both?

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LeFlesh#9979 schrieb:

Well wait a minute: if this divides the playerbase, then that means the F R E S H economy isn't actually the true thing that draws players back- it's the novel content.

So which is it?

Wat?... Nothing would work "properly" without "huge" playerbase. Game would stagnate and probably die soon.

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LeFlesh#9979 schrieb:

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AverBeg7#1689 schrieb:

To say that a live service ARPG having fresh starts with exclusive content is "psychological manipulation", is wrong. I have already laid out why, multiple times

No. You've just said that, multiple times.

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AverBeg7#1689 schrieb:

I am speaking about the health of the game, the enjoyment of the community

Same. There are clearly multiple playerbases that each find enjoyment around different aspects of the game. Why not cater to them both?

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AverBeg7#1689 schrieb:

your replies are all "me, and players like me, don't care". It's hardly an argument.

This is called projection.

There's dozens of paragraphs I have written about exactly what you say I haven't. It's literally the main topic of discussion. You have been truly dismissive, passive aggressive, rude, and selfish. Not to mention this slam dunk of "psychological manipulation" you bang on about, when you are doing exactly what you so despise in a much less fruitful and considerate way. It seems like you have 0 self awareness, nor care for others, nor thoughtful consideration of issues bigger than yourself.

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LeFlesh#9979 schrieb:

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AverBeg7#1689 schrieb:

Why can't it be both?

Exactly. So why not support both?

Case in point right here. The entire discussion was based on why not.

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LeFlesh#9979 schrieb:

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BlastYa#4875 schrieb:

When game will be full release and leave early access, the actual regular league will become the early access league as i understood and wont get anymore updates.

Source on the EA toons not getting any updates after release?

Will there be wipes during Early Access?
No, there will not be a wipe. We will do new leagues but none of your characters will be wiped, they will just go to a league called Early Access (so they will never be in Standard). In some cases characters in old leagues might be somewhat broken by balance changes though. After launch the "Early Access" characters will still exist.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2694490/view/4449088504440291717

That doesn't say EA toons won't get updated. It says they'll be in their own league.

That previous last comment is really ringing true now.

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PantsuFaust#0269 schrieb:

Wat?... Nothing would work "properly" without "huge" playerbase. Game would stagnate and probably die soon.

The point of the post you're responding to is to illustrate that economy resets aren't truly what keeps the game interesting. The new content is - always.

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LeFlesh#9979 schrieb:

That doesn't say EA toons won't get updated. It says they'll be in their own league.

That previous last comment is really ringing true now.

Maybe you should make some online search for yourself than. Unless you already have a source yourself that state otherwise?

I searched to know weeks ago :)

On that note, dont mind me i'm out of here.

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LeFlesh#9979 schrieb:

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PantsuFaust#0269 schrieb:

Wat?... Nothing would work "properly" without "huge" playerbase. Game would stagnate and probably die soon.

The point of the post you're responding to is to illustrate that economy resets aren't truly what keeps the game interesting. The new content is - always.

Economy is a part of the game aswell.