The Syndicate Lag Tax

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Xystre schrieb:
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Bleu42 schrieb:


I get the frustration, but the vast, overwhelming majority of players aren't experiencing this severe, complete freeze that I see being reported.


nice bullshit here "you're not the majority with this issue, therefore it's low priority so it doesnt matter, they should dump more resources into my fun all that matters"

show me sources and with sources I mean real numbers, not the people posting how many that never post but already left because stutters or betrayal crap?

otherwise this is another copy pasta material post.


My proof is that they moved their updates to 3.8. If the majority of players were experiencing this, then it would be their FIRST priority. It's not, which means the majority aren't. Wam bam thank you ma'am.

Also quick edit; I WANT to see this problem fixed. I'm not saying at ALL they shouldn't try to address it.
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Have zero issues with any other content in this game. It is only syndicate intervention.

All my games (even new A list games) settings are either high or ultra, PoE low or medium. Makes no difference what the settings are in PoE it runs like shit.

I'm not buying a new card or system this year as mine still works fine for real games that are coded by pros not the circus circuit. Just bought the wife new expensive rig. Looks great. PoE looks like something a homeless person vomited up at a bus stop on hers. All her other games are impressive looking.

Naturally it runs better on her box than mine. DUH But the other games that we both play run fine on both boxes. Graphics settings may be a bit lower on mine.

Next year I will be purchasing an expensive rig as by then it will be time (unless of course something happens to this one between here and now). Naturally PoE will look like hammered shit on it.
Censored.
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please do NOT buy new graphic cards if more demanding games than this one runs fine.. don't fall for the basic trolls and waste your money because some random on the internet told you to "cHaNgE yOuR PoTaTo"

there's thousands of dollars on microtransactions players give for things like this to be fixed..
"Parade your victories, hide your defeats. Mortals are so insecure."

Once you break the cycle of fear no angels or demons can whisper you their sweet nothing words.

poe0.2/10. Nuff said.
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kolyaboo schrieb:
Have zero issues with any other content in this game. It is only syndicate intervention.

All my games (even new A list games) settings are either high or ultra, PoE low or medium. Makes no difference what the settings are in PoE it runs like shit.

I'm not buying a new card or system this year as mine still works fine for real games that are coded by pros not the circus circuit. Just bought the wife new expensive rig. Looks great. PoE looks like something a homeless person vomited up at a bus stop on hers. All her other games are impressive looking.

Naturally it runs better on her box than mine. DUH But the other games that we both play run fine on both boxes. Graphics settings may be a bit lower on mine.

Next year I will be purchasing an expensive rig as by then it will be time (unless of course something happens to this one between here and now). Naturally PoE will look like hammered shit on it.


Well said. GGG is a total piece of shit when it comes to customers. I used to believe their bullshit but no longer. If I didn't really like this game I wouldn't have gone out and bought a new rig just to play it. Naturally poe looks like something that escaped from ten year ago.

It's laggy and disconnects and lags and kills you. I wish another company would buy them out.
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frostzor27 schrieb:
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BlaqWolf schrieb:
Just get rid of the pointless nonrecoverable XP loss and have done.


THIS GGG, THIS!!


well they ever took care of that, you can recover xp easily if you keep playing.

syndicate lag on highend gaming computers? one yet has to show me a system config and a video to proof it.

why video? you can bring down even newer computers by having massive programs open like firefox with 20 tabs of item live searches and a virus scanner kicking in from time to time.
age and treachery will triumph over youth and skill!
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vio schrieb:
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frostzor27 schrieb:
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BlaqWolf schrieb:
Just get rid of the pointless nonrecoverable XP loss and have done.


THIS GGG, THIS!!


well they ever took care of that, you can recover xp easily if you keep playing.

syndicate lag on highend gaming computers? one yet has to show me a system config and a video to proof it.

why video? you can bring down even newer computers by having massive programs open like firefox with 20 tabs of item live searches and a virus scanner kicking in from time to time.

nobody has to show you anything to prove anything here, the fact that many people has the same issue as others should tell you enough.
"Parade your victories, hide your defeats. Mortals are so insecure."

Once you break the cycle of fear no angels or demons can whisper you their sweet nothing words.

poe0.2/10. Nuff said.
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Bleu42 schrieb:
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gibbousmoon schrieb:
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Arrowneous schrieb:

+1. Same here for me. Until GGG fixes the lag/freeze when Syndicate Betrayal encounter portal pops open I'm not buying anything.

Doesn't matter if some players troll with "no lag for me... upgrade your potato pc". The fact that the rest of PoE plays fine but this causes major lag means GGG needs to get serious and:

1. Identify the hardware that this lags/freezes on (what is too slow or limited).
2. Identify the hardware that this doesn't lag/freeze on.
3. Based on overall hardware differences re-code and fix it or straight up tell us what is the cause
    of the lag so we can do a precise hardware upgrade and know exactly what to invest in. A blanket
    "upgrade your potato pc" doesn't cut it.


Not sure what that would be.

A 4670k i5 and gtx 980 with 16 gigs of fast memory and an SSD on win7 stuttered any time I entered a Betrayal map. Not unplayable, but obviously has garbage optimization.

Those specs aren't state of the art, but come on... They SHOULD have been adequate.


Yea, I think this is more of the problem. You're out of date man. A 980 only has 4 gigs of vram. Your 16gigs of regular ram doesn't actually do much for gaming.

And have you OC'd your cpu? Stock settings on that say only 3.4. Just getting a cpu with 4ghz baseline is a big jump in performance.

And lastly, you're on windows 7. That shit's over with man. Next year is when they stop security updates, which means developers NOW aren't going to waste time making sure their new stuff runs perfectly on it.

Obviously I wouldn't 'expect' the game to run terribly, BUT that setup is outdated now. Especially the Vram and the OS.


That's very interesting; I did not know that Path of Exile required 8 GB of VRAM (more than 4-6, in any case) to perform well. Thank you for sharing. It does make me wonder why.

In any case, might I suggest you go have a look at GGG's published recommended specs for this game?

Not the system requirements, mind you. The recommended specs.

Now, I get it. You are saying that their recommended specs are also out of date. But if a company's software has problems running on their own recommended specification, then people are going to bitch, and rightly so.

Edit: Also, your implication that better hardware is necessary for satisfactory performance is not borne out by the fact that these specific Syndicate lag problems were not widely experienced or reported (if at all) during the Syndicate league. Thus this is almost certainly the result of a bug and not merely one of GGG dropping the ball on their published recommended specifications.
Wash your hands, Exile!
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the game ever ran badly on low end machines. ever.

and while it's developed further, the system requirements also rise. that's what people not recognise or just forget.


at some point it requires a ssd to run smoothly. ugrade or switch to other games that aren't maintained permanently.

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Xystre schrieb:

nobody has to show you anything to prove anything here, the fact that many people has the same issue as others should tell you enough.


well, i simply don't believe unsubstantial claims. seen too many shit like ""this machine is dead" while it's been unplugged" sort of claims.

i got no issues with betrayal. and i don't think people with a 3 year old gaming rig also having a ssd and an gtx1070 have any problems.
age and treachery will triumph over youth and skill!
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vio schrieb:
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frostzor27 schrieb:
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BlaqWolf schrieb:
Just get rid of the pointless nonrecoverable XP loss and have done.


THIS GGG, THIS!!


well they ever took care of that, you can recover xp easily if you keep playing.

syndicate lag on highend gaming computers? one yet has to show me a system config and a video to proof it.

why video? you can bring down even newer computers by having massive programs open like firefox with 20 tabs of item live searches and a virus scanner kicking in from time to time.


Whiteknighting much?

1st: XP lost on death in 2019 is retarded. Too many shit can happen that is not on our control, yet we are punished altogheter. Not even Soulsborne series has shit like perma progress lost.

2nd: you must be kinda lazy not to google "PoE Syndicate lag" and see the videos and streamers freezing on syndicate.

GGG made some good improvements in the last patches, like loading all syndicate stuff before you even enter the map. Takes longer to load but since that I rarely die to Intervention. But the issue is still there, even if it's a 1 second freeze instead of 10 seconds. Even with my new I7 GTX1050 16MB ram note I can still see the lag.

3rd: if the game requirements doesn't explicit say you need a SSD to play, no one is forced to have one. If GGG says it's not mandatory they must make the game work regardless.
"There's no thing like random one-shots in this game. You only die because you take 353,456,237 hits in 0.2 seconds."

"The best items in the game should not be crafted, they should be TRADED." - Cent, GGG
The solution is to stop making content where you have to load assets on the fly. This has been a known problem for PoE since the ambush league and they keep doing it, and it seems they're doing it again with legion. Just stop it.

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