The Syndicate Lag Tax

I have been here nearly 7 years, I will not spend another dime if this crap continues.
I know Rachel said it is a high priority and they were working on pre-loading some zone assets for the encounters but nothing has change over the entire course of the league, annoying as fuck to be quite frank.
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DoubleU schrieb:
I have been here nearly 7 years, I will not spend another dime if this crap continues.
I know Rachel said it is a high priority and they were working on pre-loading some zone assets for the encounters but nothing has change over the entire course of the league, annoying as fuck to be quite frank.

+1. Same here for me. Until GGG fixes the lag/freeze when Syndicate Betrayal encounter portal pops open I'm not buying anything.

Doesn't matter if some players troll with "no lag for me... upgrade your potato pc". The fact that the rest of PoE plays fine but this causes major lag means GGG needs to get serious and:

1. Identify the hardware that this lags/freezes on (what is too slow or limited).
2. Identify the hardware that this doesn't lag/freeze on.
3. Based on overall hardware differences re-code and fix it or straight up tell us what is the cause
    of the lag so we can do a precise hardware upgrade and know exactly what to invest in. A blanket
    "upgrade your potato pc" doesn't cut it.
"You've got to grind, grind, grind at that grindstone..."
Necessity may be the mother of invention, but poor QoP in PoE is the father of frustration.

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Syndicate makes me feel bad because when the people ambush me, sometimes my FPS drops to 0 for a few seconds and then I die. Well, I've only experienced such fatally severe lag once, but it's always scary to receive any lag.

This is the only reason why I haven't created a hardcore character yet. The potential of losing a character due to RNGing into lag makes it all feel pointless.

There were a few times that I've almost died due to syndicate lag, but my amazing gaming prowess saved me.
There's nothing wrong with Path of Exile that the internet didn't already damage beyond recognition.

Grim Dawn is an amateurish, cheap-feeling, engine-trashy, type game that has an offline mode and no sign of the internet coming toward it and taking a dump from 95% of the entire online gaming population bar 5% of people like me.

I'm not getting any of the problems mentioned in this thread.

Make sure you use nVidia's 'Shader Cache' (PoE seems to really like it and definitely uses it with an SSD in effect). I don't know what AMD's version of it is.

Reduce your resolution and know how to scale it to it and not your native display resolution.

I can see a very near future where game developers abandon PC in a fit of suicide well worth the entry fee to consoles.
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Arrowneous schrieb:
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DoubleU schrieb:
I have been here nearly 7 years, I will not spend another dime if this crap continues.
I know Rachel said it is a high priority and they were working on pre-loading some zone assets for the encounters but nothing has change over the entire course of the league, annoying as fuck to be quite frank.

+1. Same here for me. Until GGG fixes the lag/freeze when Syndicate Betrayal encounter portal pops open I'm not buying anything.

Doesn't matter if some players troll with "no lag for me... upgrade your potato pc". The fact that the rest of PoE plays fine but this causes major lag means GGG needs to get serious and:

1. Identify the hardware that this lags/freezes on (what is too slow or limited).
2. Identify the hardware that this doesn't lag/freeze on.
3. Based on overall hardware differences re-code and fix it or straight up tell us what is the cause
    of the lag so we can do a precise hardware upgrade and know exactly what to invest in. A blanket
    "upgrade your potato pc" doesn't cut it.


Not sure what that would be.

A 4670k i5 and gtx 980 with 16 gigs of fast memory and an SSD on win7 stuttered any time I entered a Betrayal map. Not unplayable, but obviously has garbage optimization.

Those specs aren't state of the art, but come on... They SHOULD have been adequate.
Wash your hands, Exile!
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Rachel wrote:
Hi there! I'm sorry to hear you're having this trouble, but I can assure you we are aware of the issue (it's currently a High Priority Known Issue) and are working on getting this resolved as quickly as possible.

My apologies for any inconvenience caused!


I can see that this is high priority, oh yes indeed. Such a high priority you refuse to even address until September (which I'm sure will likely turn into Dec if the ridiculous pattern holds).

This is not the actions of a normal company. I've never seen such garbage before. Even EA would be ashamed of this.

As many have stated already, you will not get any support from me as long as you behave in this shoddy manner toward your customer base.

And btw, stop posting lies. This is NOT high priority. It is a non issue as far as GGG is concerned.
Censored.
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kolyaboo schrieb:
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Rachel wrote:
Hi there! I'm sorry to hear you're having this trouble, but I can assure you we are aware of the issue (it's currently a High Priority Known Issue) and are working on getting this resolved as quickly as possible.

My apologies for any inconvenience caused!


I can see that this is high priority, oh yes indeed. Such a high priority you refuse to even address until September (which I'm sure will likely turn into Dec if the ridiculous pattern holds).

This is not the actions of a normal company. I've never seen such garbage before. Even EA would be ashamed of this.

As many have stated already, you will not get any support from me as long as you behave in this shoddy manner toward your customer base.

And btw, stop posting lies. This is NOT high priority. It is a non issue as far as GGG is concerned.


I get the frustration, but the vast, overwhelming majority of players aren't experiencing this severe, complete freeze that I see being reported.

If they were, then either the problem would have been fixed by now, or they'd simply disable betrayal.

I mean I know it's simple things, but if you're experiencing this, are your video drivers / OS up to date? Have you lowered your graphical settings? Is POE on an SSD? Have you tweaked all your settings, such as high performance for gaming / in your bios? Do you have a slightly older GPU that only has 4-6 gigs of Vram?

I know I have a very high end rig, but something is up. I haven't had to deal with any of these problems, and I've seen people who say they also have an expensive setup and they still get frozen. I mean either they're lying about their hardware, or about actually checking EVERY setting, or something else. A couple new mobs popping out has nothing on a strongbox with a screen of enemies, right?
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Bleu42 schrieb:


I get the frustration, but the vast, overwhelming majority of players aren't experiencing this severe, complete freeze that I see being reported.


nice bullshit here "you're not the majority with this issue, therefore it's low priority so it doesnt matter, they should dump more resources into my fun all that matters"

show me sources and with sources I mean real numbers, not the people posting how many that never post but already left because stutters or betrayal crap?

otherwise this is another copy pasta material post.
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Once you break the cycle of fear no angels or demons can whisper you their sweet nothing words.

poe0.2/10. Nuff said.
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gibbousmoon schrieb:
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Arrowneous schrieb:
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DoubleU schrieb:
I have been here nearly 7 years, I will not spend another dime if this crap continues.
I know Rachel said it is a high priority and they were working on pre-loading some zone assets for the encounters but nothing has change over the entire course of the league, annoying as fuck to be quite frank.

+1. Same here for me. Until GGG fixes the lag/freeze when Syndicate Betrayal encounter portal pops open I'm not buying anything.

Doesn't matter if some players troll with "no lag for me... upgrade your potato pc". The fact that the rest of PoE plays fine but this causes major lag means GGG needs to get serious and:

1. Identify the hardware that this lags/freezes on (what is too slow or limited).
2. Identify the hardware that this doesn't lag/freeze on.
3. Based on overall hardware differences re-code and fix it or straight up tell us what is the cause
    of the lag so we can do a precise hardware upgrade and know exactly what to invest in. A blanket
    "upgrade your potato pc" doesn't cut it.


Not sure what that would be.

A 4670k i5 and gtx 980 with 16 gigs of fast memory and an SSD on win7 stuttered any time I entered a Betrayal map. Not unplayable, but obviously has garbage optimization.

Those specs aren't state of the art, but come on... They SHOULD have been adequate.


Yea, I think this is more of the problem. You're out of date man. A 980 only has 4 gigs of vram. Your 16gigs of regular ram doesn't actually do much for gaming.

And have you OC'd your cpu? Stock settings on that say only 3.4. Just getting a cpu with 4ghz baseline is a big jump in performance.

And lastly, you're on windows 7. That shit's over with man. Next year is when they stop security updates, which means developers NOW aren't going to waste time making sure their new stuff runs perfectly on it.

Obviously I wouldn't 'expect' the game to run terribly, BUT that setup is outdated now. Especially the Vram and the OS.
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Bleu42 schrieb:
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kolyaboo schrieb:
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Rachel wrote:
Hi there! I'm sorry to hear you're having this trouble, but I can assure you we are aware of the issue (it's currently a High Priority Known Issue) and are working on getting this resolved as quickly as possible.

My apologies for any inconvenience caused!


I can see that this is high priority, oh yes indeed. Such a high priority you refuse to even address until September (which I'm sure will likely turn into Dec if the ridiculous pattern holds).

This is not the actions of a normal company. I've never seen such garbage before. Even EA would be ashamed of this.

As many have stated already, you will not get any support from me as long as you behave in this shoddy manner toward your customer base.

And btw, stop posting lies. This is NOT high priority. It is a non issue as far as GGG is concerned.


I get the frustration, but the vast, overwhelming majority of players aren't experiencing this severe, complete freeze that I see being reported.

If they were, then either the problem would have been fixed by now, or they'd simply disable betrayal.

I mean I know it's simple things, but if you're experiencing this, are your video drivers / OS up to date? Have you lowered your graphical settings? Is POE on an SSD? Have you tweaked all your settings, such as high performance for gaming / in your bios? Do you have a slightly older GPU that only has 4-6 gigs of Vram?

I know I have a very high end rig, but something is up. I haven't had to deal with any of these problems, and I've seen people who say they also have an expensive setup and they still get frozen. I mean either they're lying about their hardware, or about actually checking EVERY setting, or something else. A couple new mobs popping out has nothing on a strongbox with a screen of enemies, right?


Betrayal actually has QUITE a bit more loading then just a few new mobs. The entire Betrayal-mechanic loads the moment an Intervention spawns (even though for me it loads at map load instead, so I get a quick few stutters at map spawn and then no lag when Syndicate shows up).

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