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There are people out there that the only thing they've got is the game. They need to feel like they are good enough, better than the others, at something in life. So they pick games like this for that purpose.
The ones telling others ''git gud'' to another player are usually lonely and mentally ill people. Go easy on them.
Calling someone "mentally ill" or "lonely" for this reason is exactly what someone does who wants to feel better than others, more "mature" or "stable" or whatever. Don't fool yourself.
Unless your name is ''People out there'', I was talking about people out there, responding to the last part of that dude's comment. I don't even know why you answer, but I guess he was answering to you and you thought I was doing the same.
If you identified yourself with that text, that's your problem.
You made a comment to a conversation I was part of and quoted me too, don't play stupid.
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Beitrag vonVinky_GGGam 02.02.2025, 14:29:10Grinding Gear Games
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First of all, drop this condescending tone. I am not your darling, you are nobody to me.
You don't have a single Hardcore character so you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. I leveled a character to 90 in HC for achievements recently. Death in HC is far more punishing than on SC. So what I did to avoid deaths? Right, I avoided any kind of challenging content. All I did was grind non-threatening maps up to T10. That's the kind of gameplay that extreme punishment incentivizes. In SC you do the same, once you're past a certain threshold, you stop doing dangerous stuff that can kill you and just grind easy content.
No sane person will play through 10000 deaths to reach max level. They will quit way before that. Your argument is a strawman and you know that. If you don't understand that, well, that's your problem.
Darling, the 10000 deaths were an exaggeration and btw., there are already ppl with over 1000 deaths so it's not a strawman.
Furthermore, I don't play hardcore because I want the softcore economy, that simple. Further Furthermore, PoE HC isn't even something I, myself, consider "hard". When I want a real challenge I can play something else, like skill-based games or a game with a challenge like "Rogue Trader" on the highest difficulty with "Grim Darkness" and non-meta builds where I have to start the entire game from 0 on death, or a souls game in hobo pants and a club or BG3 honour mode with one character.
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In my case, it wasn't frustrating until 300+ hours. Mainly because the campaign was great and I was discovering the game. But when I understood mapping, after a heavy investment in defences and still being 1-shot killed in a map, I started to become frustrated.
The campaign was a lie, nothing in the end game can be called combat. Not even going to talk about meaningful or not, there is simply not combat: you explode the screen or something that can't even be seen in the screen explodes something that also can't be seen and the map is gone. And you have to run that map again but without modifiers, of course.
The gearing became an endless chase of currency to be able to buy better gear. Putting currency into gear leads to low rolls and the randomness party, and I am not a gambler neither I have a ludopathy issue.
This game had people engaging and applauding the campaign because that's what it brought as a fresh content for this genre, but people will burn out of the unbalanced gameplay. The only people playing the game longer are the ones addicted to gambling, they just don't know that they've got a mental issue, like real life gamblers.
The end game is just the worst I have experienced in an ARPG in my life. I never thought an ARPG could be worse than D4 when there were only NMD to do, but PoE 2 just took the crown. They better be changing A LOT of the end game systems, from balancing to gearing, or people will be leaving little by little until only gamblers are left. You can see on YouTube that at this point most of the Youtubers are uploading 16 minutes long videos of them gambling amulets because you end up landing there with the current system.
Sorry for the long text.
Fair enough. But then you should just return at some later stage of the EA development or wait for 1.0. GGG knows that endgame was build right before the launch and therefore isn't balanced. That is something they will look into and we can expect balance patches here. So instead of venting frustration, just saying the game was great for 300 hours, but after that it needs balance and polish would be more correct in your case, I guess?
If you don't express how frustrating the experience was they might not know it. There are plenty of people applauding the game, even when we all know it is in a bad state. The bashing is needed. And the game is frustrating enough to be even disrespectful because there are things in this game that literally just waste your time. Games should never do that to the player.
No, bashing is never necessary to improve something. It's the opposite. Bashing something already creates a toxic atmosphere right from the start and this toxicity leads people to personal attack each other about the topic. In the end, we only have people bashing each others opinion and that leads to strong language, name calling and flaming.
Take a look at the other 2 guys arguing here. We already have GGG here intervening and saying that there are posts that breach the forum guidelines.
And did you by accident participate in EA of Baldurs Gate 3? People there were so helpful, considerate and patient with the dev and guess what? It's one of the best RPGs that was ever created with community feedback. That's how it should be. Or at least this is also a way to participate in development and I think it's more helpful for everyone involved.
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No, bashing is never necessary to improve something. It's the opposite. Bashing something already creates a toxic atmosphere right from the start and this toxicity leads people to personal attack each other about the topic. In the end, we only have people bashing each others opinion and that leads to strong language, name calling and flaming.
Take a look at the other 2 guys arguing here. We already have GGG here intervening and saying that there are posts that breach the forum guidelines.
And did you by accident participate in EA of Baldurs Gate 3? People there were so helpful, considerate and patient with the dev and guess what? It's one of the best RPGs that was ever created with community feedback. That's how it should be. Or at least this is also a way to participate in development and I think it's more helpful for everyone involved.
Support wasn't intervening because of the one guy and me arguing - it was because the person you replied to went for the route calling ppl "mentally ill".
Just saying, the irony was funny to me.
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You made a comment to a conversation I was part of and quoted me too, don't play stupid.
I don't need to play stupid because, even if I tell you that I was talking about you, there is nothing you would be able to do about it. Nothing at all. Why would I need to deny it?
You wanna be part of that lonely, mentally ill crowd I was talking about? Go ahead!
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You made a comment to a conversation I was part of and quoted me too, don't play stupid.
I don't need to play stupid because, even if I tell you that I was talking about you, there is nothing you would be able to do about it. Nothing at all. Why would I need to deny it?
You wanna be part of that lonely, mentally ill crowd I was talking about? Go ahead!
You can't fool me, you only fool yourself. The superiority complex is strong in you, young Padawan. We deny you the rank of a master.
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In my case, it wasn't frustrating until 300+ hours. Mainly because the campaign was great and I was discovering the game. But when I understood mapping, after a heavy investment in defences and still being 1-shot killed in a map, I started to become frustrated.
The campaign was a lie, nothing in the end game can be called combat. Not even going to talk about meaningful or not, there is simply not combat: you explode the screen or something that can't even be seen in the screen explodes something that also can't be seen and the map is gone. And you have to run that map again but without modifiers, of course.
The gearing became an endless chase of currency to be able to buy better gear. Putting currency into gear leads to low rolls and the randomness party, and I am not a gambler neither I have a ludopathy issue.
This game had people engaging and applauding the campaign because that's what it brought as a fresh content for this genre, but people will burn out of the unbalanced gameplay. The only people playing the game longer are the ones addicted to gambling, they just don't know that they've got a mental issue, like real life gamblers.
The end game is just the worst I have experienced in an ARPG in my life. I never thought an ARPG could be worse than D4 when there were only NMD to do, but PoE 2 just took the crown. They better be changing A LOT of the end game systems, from balancing to gearing, or people will be leaving little by little until only gamblers are left. You can see on YouTube that at this point most of the Youtubers are uploading 16 minutes long videos of them gambling amulets because you end up landing there with the current system.
Sorry for the long text.
Fair enough. But then you should just return at some later stage of the EA development or wait for 1.0. GGG knows that endgame was build right before the launch and therefore isn't balanced. That is something they will look into and we can expect balance patches here. So instead of venting frustration, just saying the game was great for 300 hours, but after that it needs balance and polish would be more correct in your case, I guess?
If you don't express how frustrating the experience was they might not know it. There are plenty of people applauding the game, even when we all know it is in a bad state. The bashing is needed. And the game is frustrating enough to be even disrespectful because there are things in this game that literally just waste your time. Games should never do that to the player.
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No, bashing is never necessary to improve something. It's the opposite. Bashing something already creates a toxic atmosphere right from the start and this toxicity leads people to personal attack each other about the topic. In the end, we only have people bashing each others opinion and that leads to strong language, name calling and flaming.
Take a look at the other 2 guys arguing here. We already have GGG here intervening and saying that there are posts that breach the forum guidelines.
And did you by accident participate in EA of Baldurs Gate 3? People there were so helpful, considerate and patient with the dev and guess what? It's one of the best RPGs that was ever created with community feedback. That's how it should be. Or at least this is also a way to participate in development and I think it's more helpful for everyone involved.
I did participate in the BG3 EA. The difference between BG3 and PoE 2 is gigantic. Larian wasn't trying to frustrate players with completely unbalanced difficulty, they never made unfair balancing in favour of their system. GGG, in the other hand, have people streaming about gambling with the tools of their game. Literally 16 to 30 minutes long videos of a dude gambling, as if it was a slot machine. Go check some of the streams that Twitch banned and compare those to the PoE 2 videos. The only difference is real money, but the rest of it, is exactly the same.
That's just one of the many issues the game has. Trust me when I tell you that I wanted to like the game, but I paid with the expectations that the devs created on me. They spoke about crafting, they spoke about meaningful combat, they said they hated watching bosses being 1-shot killed and they wanted memorable fights... They lied. None of that was in the game, yet they said it was. I feel scammed. I am sure this is what they wanted because they weren't thinking about players having fun but rather about player retention, and the only industry that manages to retain ''players'' without missing, is the gambling industry, taking advantage of the high addiction component of the uncertain outcome. If you are not aware you are getting dragged into it, that could end up bad. Not every gambler started playing Poker or some slot machines, some of them might start with PoE 2 currency and move to real money stuff later, just for the feeling and because ''they were lucky with the rolls on PoE 2''.
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You made a comment to a conversation I was part of and quoted me too, don't play stupid.
I don't need to play stupid because, even if I tell you that I was talking about you, there is nothing you would be able to do about it. Nothing at all. Why would I need to deny it?
You wanna be part of that lonely, mentally ill crowd I was talking about? Go ahead!
You can't fool me, you only fool yourself. The superiority complex is strong in you, young Padawan. We deny you the rank of a master.
What?! How can you do this? This is outrageous. It's unfair! How can I have the superiority complex, and not be a master?
Now it comes the scene where you, a superiority complex master, invite me to take a sit. And I will do it, after asking for forgiveness, master.
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Good night, good night! Parting is such sweet sorrow, that I shall say good night till it be morrow.
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