+4 on boss tree is stupid, stop it with the "1 shots"

Yeah, quite frankly rewards do not match up with the increase in risk.

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darrenrob82#3531 schrieb:

I'm going to have to agree. The boss scaling with map difficulty needs to be looked at. "The shackled horror" on +4 does some ice wall/cone freeze attack that does 2000 damage against 76% cold resistance with 70%+ armour applying to elemental. If I didn't have energy shield this attack would be a one shot kill. According to https://poe2db.tw/us/The_Shackled_Horror this attack can't be blocked, dodged or avoided.

Red one-shot I'm fine with; unavoidable one-shots I'm not.

What's crazy is I can breeze thru T15 6 mod maps, but then I get to boss and I struggle a little.

For me though the bigger problem is the crazy health pools. This means any build who's damage isn't incredibly high, is taking forever to kill the boss.

This is an 8 mod map
2 damage rolls and minus max res


And the boss does cold damage



+4 boss tree

Explicit mod tree as well




Ice attack


This is with - max res and three different elemental damage types.
2 that I have added with mods and 1 basetype from the boss. And it doesnt even do 2k to my armour build.

My brass dome even gives me an additional -1 max res as well.


So the problem of getting hit that hard, and it be concerning, is definitely on your end. Not +4 to some boss tree.

I dont think you are running this amount of juice either.

Skill or build issue. I'm HC 92 lvl, easily dodge or tank all bosses.
And exactly because of this "experienced" players this game is TOO EASY even on HC and I don't want to spend money on it.

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Mashgesture#2912 schrieb:

....So the problem of getting hit that hard, and it be concerning, is definitely on your end. Not +4 to some boss tree.

I don't think you are running this amount of juice either.

You contribute so much too discussions.

/s

https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/Mashgesture-2912/character/DontTouchMyArmour

Defiance of Destiny, The brass dome, Titian specific passive stone skin, etc.

Maybe I don't know how to count, but looks like you got hit for around 1600. Which is only 400 away from what I said. So you're argument is some builds can do it fine? Great argument.

Did you know some meta builds can delete every boss in seconds. I guess that means things are balanced huh?

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darrenrob82#3531 schrieb:

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Mashgesture#2912 schrieb:

....So the problem of getting hit that hard, and it be concerning, is definitely on your end. Not +4 to some boss tree.

I don't think you are running this amount of juice either.

You contribute so much too discussions.

/s

https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/Mashgesture-2912/character/DontTouchMyArmour

Defiance of Destiny, The brass dome, Titian specific passive stone skin, etc.

Maybe I don't know how to count, but looks like you got hit for around 1600. Which is only 400 away from what I said. So you're argument is some builds can do it fine? Great argument.

Did you know some meta builds can delete every boss in seconds. I guess that means things are balanced huh?

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Its like I said it was a build issue or something in my original reply.


You want people to go in with no items? To prove that ... its still a build issue like I originally said?


Odd reply but def solvable on the players end

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Mashgesture#2912 schrieb:

You want people to go in with no items? To prove that ... its still a build issue like I originally said?

You proved it was a build issue, in the same way somebody playing a meta build with mirror gear proves it's a build issue. Meaning you didn't.

At best you proved that if somebody fully invested in Armour, the hit does 400 less than what I said it was. So again you proved nothing.

It is good to know that if I take the titan passive, have two specific Armour uniques, 120% armour applies elemental(at least) and armour banner on weapon swap, then I can reduce the damage by 400.

So thanks for that info.

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darrenrob82#3531 schrieb:

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Mashgesture#2912 schrieb:

You want people to go in with no items? To prove that ... its still a build issue like I originally said?

You proved it was a build issue, in the same way somebody playing a meta build with mirror gear proves it's a build issue. Meaning you didn't.

My titan slam 2h ... no shield is not meta....

Nor is it mirror gear lol.


And im not fully invested into armour, I have plenty that I can grab that I dont.

My tree is nearly twice invested into offense than it is into defense. Since you want to open it up

37 def points
62 offense points



Looking at your tree, I completely forgot about this tree, yea.... There's a reason your character gets one shot and could never handle mods much less +boss tree allocation. Said it in my original reply.

Yo the gigachad 60k armour said it’s build issue then it’s a builf issue. Armour is god tier and should be nerf next league.

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Mashgesture#2912 schrieb:

My titan slam 2h ... no shield is not meta....

Nor is it mirror gear lol.

Let me be clear: Saying one build can do something is not representative to all builds. The most obvious example would be meta builds.

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Mashgesture#2912 schrieb:

And im not fully invested into armour

From what I can tell you would need at least 65 points to get all the defensive nodes on your tree. You also have weapon swap dedicated to banners. I'm not even counting the points you've dedicated to that.

Your gear invest even more into the Armour defense

3 affixes on your helmet and the socket.
A unique armour and two sockets
A unique amulet and the instill passives
1 affix on on both rings
3 affix on your glove and the socket
2 affix on your belt and it's implicit
3 affix on your boots and the socket.
1 affix on each of your jewels for a total of 3

And scavenged plating

I'm not even counting the cost of your resist, but that is relevant considering the attack we are referring to is pure cold damage.

That is what I would call fully invested, but we can agree to disagree.

So again thank you for letting me know, that if I'm a titan, who plays mace, I can not be one-shot by that specific mechanic.

i havent spec'd into boss tree in 3 leagues now
they're just too punishing with disappointing rewards

its a shame though cause my 3rd tab has to be irradiated since I can't get the bonus +1 map level at the top of the tree for corrupted maps.