XP loss leads to player count loss.

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HeroEvermore#0498 schrieb:

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xonedl#1873 schrieb:

One more time - we had been doing this mechanism for 12 years... or 13 years?

Why now suddenly a bunch of people come in and yelling about this issue non stop?

Gamers these days...

Cause it belongs in games 13 years ago, not now. LOTS of us feel very passionate about that and think it's going to keep the player base from growing. In fact it already is.

You have zero evidence to show that a significant portion of players are quitting because of xp loss.

Maybe they're quiting because they want to play Marvel Rivals?

Maybe because they hit the maps and got bored?

Maybe because they didn't find a citadel in 40 hours of mapping and got bored?

Maybe because they did find a citadel and the boss killed them and they didn't want to spend another 20+ hours looking for one?

Maybe they finally got their Simulacrum and went into the instance only to have it crash and then realizing they'd need days to get 300 more splinters decided to wait till next major patch?

Maybe they played the currently available classes and ascendancies and decided to wait for more content?


But nah - it's the xp loss for sure right? Because you said so.

Evidence is all over the in game chat. Multiple posts in these forums. Multiple posts in steam forums. Multiple videos talking about it etc.
Choosing to ignore it doesn't make it not true. XP loss bad. Trying to change people's opinions is wasting your time. Just like XP loss. :)

+1 for Remove xp loss on death (among many things).

Just feels like it encourages the "zoom zoom 1-shot" playstyle even more, so that's a Big Fat Nah.

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Mordgier#6997 schrieb:

You have zero evidence to show that a significant portion of players are quitting because of xp loss.

I have a few friends who quit because of it. I played POE 1 to invite them in POE 2, the day they knew that there's XP loss they turned back to play different games instead.

You can say at least they got their money's worth but that's not gonna bring players back.

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shiraha19#6298 schrieb:

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Mordgier#6997 schrieb:

You have zero evidence to show that a significant portion of players are quitting because of xp loss.

I have a few friends who quit because of it. I played POE 1 to invite them in POE 2, the day they knew that there's XP loss they turned back to play different games instead.

You can say at least they got their money's worth but that's not gonna bring players back.

Yeah my PoE 1 friends already left. I left to play Elden Ring. Just beat it yesterday first time. Such a great game. I am playing PoE 1 again today. Best ARPG ever made! ROAR.

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HeroEvermore#0498 schrieb:

Evidence is all over the in game chat. Multiple posts in these forums. Multiple posts in steam forums. Multiple videos talking about it etc.
Choosing to ignore it doesn't make it not true. XP loss bad. Trying to change people's opinions is wasting your time. Just like XP loss. :)

I have absolutely zero interest in changing your opinion. You're fully entitled to it.

Just like I am to mine. Not every player is going to like the mechanics and game play of PoE2 and that's fine.

Fortunately the devs are not trying to make a game that is set out to please absolutely everyone because they realize that such games end up without a strong following like what PoE has enjoyed for over a decade.

I like the xp loss because it forces a minimum level of survivability in the game and creates barriers for players to overcome.

Without those barriers PoE 2 would be a dull tourist game that would fade into obscurity because the same players who want to hit 100 with no exp loss would uninstall the second they hit 100 because there would be "nothing left to do" and they had "beaten the game".

The Devs ARE trying to make a game to appeal to the masses though. They said that multiple times. They wanted to make a game to dominate the ARPG genre. Now we see that it failed that goal. So it's time to adjust the game. In hopes of growth. Not staying the same to slowly die and fade.

I have heard more people quit due to XP loss than any other reason. I 100% believe if it was removed this game would start to grow.

This feedback is one of the most discussed topics about this game. It is leading to our friends leaving the game. Heck it's a tiny part of why I left but I am a masochist gamer so it's not the actual reason. I just do not like the game. I still want to see it succeed though. As I love PoE 1 with all my heart and love ARPGs. If this game flops it is going to keep companies from making more ARPG games. Just like the decline of MMORPG games.

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HeroEvermore#0498 schrieb:

The Devs ARE trying to make a game to appeal to the masses though. They said that multiple times. This feedback is one of the most discussed topics about this game. It is leading to our friends leaving the game. Heck it's a tiny part of why I left but I am a masochist gamer so it's not the actual reason. I just do not like the game.

Where is this quote? Because they said they intended to make it more "accessible" which is a very different thing.

Who are they gonna make it more accessible to? The people who already played/know PoE? lol

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FruitLord#0833 schrieb:

Who are they gonna make it more accessible to? The people who already played/know PoE? lol

Accessible is just an overused gaming term that means nothing. People already know what path of exile is. Agreed. XP loss makes end game less accessible.

Accessible = (of a place) able to be reached or entered.