XP loss leads to player count loss.

Nah they don't, not if there isn't any reason for the uptake to be delayed. Player retention looks well within normal to me I wouldn't be too concerned in their place.

What matters is if they come back in the future. PoE1 has had league on league growth each time but I'm a bit sus on if PoE2 is going to have more players than the EA launch for their first league but i guess we'll see.

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Renegade_Archer#1313 schrieb:

They lost nearly 50% of their players since launch. This should be alarming to them. It makes me wonder if they even care.

That's the opposite of alarming. It's expected. I'll even say more: it's an impressive statistic. Most games lose more.

This is false. New games grow at first. This one did not. Fact.
Losing 1/3 of a million players right away. Bet GGG and Tencent are freaking out right now.

PoE2 is 1 month into the 'league' and has similar drop off in players as every single POE 1 league ever.

PoE2 is doing great given that it has 1/4 if that of the content that PoE1 has.

But of course you are going to claim otherwise to fit your narrative.

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Renegade_Archer#1313 schrieb:

They lost nearly 50% of their players since launch. This should be alarming to them. It makes me wonder if they even care.

That's the opposite of alarming. It's expected. I'll even say more: it's an impressive statistic. Most games lose more.

This is false. New games grow at first. This one did not. Fact.
Losing 1/3 of a million players right away. Bet GGG and Tencent are freaking out right now.

What paid early access games are you comparing this to? Do you really, in your heart of hearts, think that when PoE2 is finally ready for its free-to-play launch, that the numbers will go down? I don't. I think they are going to skyrocket. In the meantime, the numbers are phenomenal for an early access game.

Please name a specific example to support your claim that you are saying facts.

This discussion if about XP loss. Have to stay on topic or they delete it. Simple as that. If you need an example go look at Marvel Rivals. Growing every day. This game, losing every day. (weekends excluded as all games get a massive uptick)
Marvel Rivals all time peak, 1 day ago.
Path of exile 2 all time peak, 1 month ago.
Facts.

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HeroEvermore#0498 schrieb:

This discussion if about XP loss. Have to stay on topic or they delete it. Simple as that. If you need an example go look at Marvel Rivals. Growing every day. This game, losing every day. (weekends excluded as all games get a massive uptick)

Not in early access. Fact.

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HeroEvermore#0498 schrieb:

This discussion if about XP loss. Have to stay on topic or they delete it. Simple as that. If you need an example go look at Marvel Rivals. Growing every day. This game, losing every day. (weekends excluded as all games get a massive uptick)

Not in early access. Fact.

Playable game. Consumers dont care if its EA. It's out right now. Done going back and forth as this is off topic and were allowed to have different opinions.

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HeroEvermore#0498 schrieb:

This discussion if about XP loss. Have to stay on topic or they delete it. Simple as that. If you need an example go look at Marvel Rivals. Growing every day. This game, losing every day. (weekends excluded as all games get a massive uptick)

Not in early access. Fact.

It's also free to play while PoE2 requires a $30 key to even touch it.

It's totally an apple and oranges comparison, but there is a reason they are picking it instead of looking back at PoE1 numbers which after a new league - because that'd not suit their narrative.

One more time - we had been doing this mechanism for 12 years... or 13 years?

Why now suddenly a bunch of people come in and yelling about this issue non stop?

Gamers these days...

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xonedl#1873 schrieb:

One more time - we had been doing this mechanism for 12 years... or 13 years?

Why now suddenly a bunch of people come in and yelling about this issue non stop?

Gamers these days...

Cause it belongs in games 13 years ago, not now. LOTS of us feel very passionate about that and think it's going to keep the player base from growing. In fact it already is.

Again I like xp loss in poe 1. It has to be there. I feel it has no place in poe 2. At all.

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HeroEvermore#0498 schrieb:

This discussion if about XP loss. Have to stay on topic or they delete it. Simple as that. If you need an example go look at Marvel Rivals. Growing every day. This game, losing every day. (weekends excluded as all games get a massive uptick)

Not in early access. Fact.

Playable game. Consumers dont care if its EA. It's out right now. Done going back and forth as this is off topic and were allowed to have different opinions.

Going forward, please say, "XP loss is bad. Opinion." Thanks.