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GGG needs a lemon law, or people can't understand how to use the trade window.
it's like in d2 when people toss objects on the ground and cry when people steal it
this is already in, the trade screen is RED until you hover over the item and verify its what you want.
if you are happy you hit accept.
OP didnt check the item, got scammed and thinks everyone else bar themselves is in the wrong
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<which calls the item's name and stats onto the screen for you>.
I mean....he did say he was buying it unid'd so it wouldn't give you all that information.
But all the more reason to spend the time to make sure the icon matches if you are choosing to buy an unid'd item. If I'm dropping a huge amount of divines on a single item, you bet I'm gonna double, triple, quadruple check to make sure its the correct item before making the conscious decision to press the green checkbox
They look exactly.....nothing alike, apart from both being amulets.
But here's where I can see the OPs problem: perhaps he didn't know strugglescream existed prior to ID'ing that scam buy. Therefore, he wasn't looking too closely at the design, thinking that all unique stellars were Astramentis by default. I can see that happening, and unfortunately that's just nasty rotten luck. He will know better for the future.
But it isn't any fault with the trade system, online or in-game. A scammer just simply hit the exact right target. Many of us have been there before....and hopefully won't ever repeat the same mistake. Back in 2013, I got scammed on a 6L purchase (the 6th link was notoriously hard to see and people would swap a 5L in). This was an actual problem with trade back then: no confirmation, very difficult visuals, sockets were all "uniform-looking". This was all fixed later, but I still owned up to my mistake with the semi-broken system of the time. Yet That single bad experience made it so I was NEVER scammed again in the 12 years since. Gotta be more attentive: every protection that could ever be needed.....is already in place. There is no time limit to trade. You cannot trade without visually confirming the item. And then you also need to press a big old green checkmark to confirm, only available AFTER you see the item. If you miss ALL of those roadblocks.....its your fault.
It is legitimately IMPOSSIBLE to scam someone in trade without it being THEIR fault for acceptin) in the current system GGG provides.
it still tells you the items name when you hover over it, yeah it doesnt show the UNID stats, but it still says Astramentis more or less in its name and model.
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<which calls the item's name and stats onto the screen for you>.
I mean....he did say he was buying it unid'd so it wouldn't give you all that information.
But all the more reason to spend the time to make sure the icon matches if you are choosing to buy an unid'd item. If I'm dropping a huge amount of divines on a single item, you bet I'm gonna double, triple, quadruple check to make sure its the correct item before making the conscious decision to press the green checkbox
They look exactly.....nothing alike, apart from both being amulets.
But here's where I can see the OPs problem: perhaps he didn't know strugglescream existed prior to ID'ing that scam buy. Therefore, he wasn't looking too closely at the design, thinking that all unique stellars were Astramentis by default. I can see that happening, and unfortunately that's just nasty rotten luck. He will know better for the future.
But it isn't any fault with the trade system, online or in-game. A scammer just simply hit the exact right target. Many of us have been there before....and hopefully won't ever repeat the same mistake. Back in 2013, I got scammed on a 6L purchase (the 6th link was notoriously hard to see and people would swap a 5L in). This was an actual problem with trade back then: no confirmation, very difficult visuals, sockets were all "uniform-looking". This was all fixed later, but I still owned up to my mistake with the semi-broken system of the time. Yet That single bad experience made it so I was NEVER scammed again in the 12 years since. Gotta be more attentive: every protection that could ever be needed.....is already in place. There is no time limit to trade. You cannot trade without visually confirming the item. And then you also need to press a big old green checkmark to confirm, only available AFTER you see the item. If you miss ALL of those roadblocks.....its your fault.
It is legitimately IMPOSSIBLE to scam someone in trade without it being THEIR fault for acceptin) in the current system GGG provides.
it still tells you the items name when you hover over it, yeah it doesnt show the UNID stats, but it still says Astramentis more or less in its name and model.
if is unidentified it will not say Astramentis. . .
so a lot less then. . .
Op didnt do his due dilligence. . .
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I have been playing the game for 250 hours but I still got scammed today. Because when I search for "Astramentis Stellar Amulet" on the trade site, unidentified versions also appear. On the site, it is not possible to distinguish Strugglescream from the item shapes as the same. I made this mistake and spent all my divine orbs that I barely saved to buy the unidentified version. But when I identified it, it became Strugglescream.
Why does the unidentified version of Strugglescream also appear when I search for "Astramentis Stellar Amulet" specifically? Why does the trade site list the wrong item for me?
And some people take advantage of this. Because the seller knows that "Strugglescream" only drops from Simulacrum. I got tired of the game because of this ridiculous thing.
-Gets scammed because of own fault
-Blames devs
Yeah, typical forum/reddit thread checks out.
Lmao. It's bad design. There is no reason for it to be this way and it helps people scam. Why do you waste your time responding to threads with useless comments.
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I just lost 60 Divine, so I can see how this would happen. On the Trade site, there is no difference in the image. It's definitely something that should be addressed.
I Searched for Astramentis. It came up. There were multiple in the price range (obviously a scam now). I made the trade remotely through xbox phone App and just couldn't see the difference in the image.
Honestly, I was looking for a scam. It seemed suspicious. I kept double checking for something off and just didn't see it.
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I just lost 60 Divine, so I can see how this would happen. On the Trade site, there is no difference in the image. It's definitely something that should be addressed.
I Searched for Astramentis. It came up. There were multiple in the price range (obviously a scam now). I made the trade remotely through xbox phone App and just couldn't see the difference in the image.
Honestly, I was looking for a scam. It seemed suspicious. I kept double checking for something off and just didn't see it.
I mean... Astramentis for 6 to 70div as it is in your picture is 100% a scam if they accept the trade. If they don't they are price fixing. The item is way more expensive, so such low prices should be always ignored.
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I just lost 60 Divine, so I can see how this would happen. On the Trade site, there is no difference in the image. It's definitely something that should be addressed.
I Searched for Astramentis. It came up. There were multiple in the price range (obviously a scam now). I made the trade remotely through xbox phone App and just couldn't see the difference in the image.
Honestly, I was looking for a scam. It seemed suspicious. I kept double checking for something off and just didn't see it.
There's no way to tell whether or not the trade website is bugged just from that screenshot.
If you search for unidentified Stellar Amulets on the trade website, I assume all item images are correct. You can clearly see all the 3 different arts.
So that person might as well have put that item for sale but actually scams you at the moment of the trade and the trade website is working just fine...
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Beitrag von_rt_#4636am 11.02.2025, 13:38:18
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I just lost 60 Divine, so I can see how this would happen. On the Trade site, there is no difference in the image. It's definitely something that should be addressed.
I Searched for Astramentis. It came up. There were multiple in the price range (obviously a scam now). I made the trade remotely through xbox phone App and just couldn't see the difference in the image.
Honestly, I was looking for a scam. It seemed suspicious. I kept double checking for something off and just didn't see it.
There's no way to tell whether or not the trade website is bugged just from that screenshot.
If you search for unidentified Stellar Amulets on the trade website, I assume all item images are correct. You can clearly see all the 3 different arts.
So that person might as well have put that item for sale but actually scams you at the moment of the trade and the trade website is working just fine...
If you search for "Astramentis - unidentified" you only get Astramentis as a result, period.
If you search for "Stellar Amulet - unidentified" you get all items that share the same base, so it still works like intended.
The thing that happened with every single "Astramentis Scam Post" is - they tried to buy an "Astramentis" for cheap and got the "Strugglescream" traded instead, while they went over both security measures and accepted the trade.
There was nothing wrong with the trade side itself, they f'ed up the trade.
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If you search for "Astramentis - unidentified" you only get Astramentis as a result, period.
If you search for "Stellar Amulet - unidentified" you get all items that share the same base, so it still works like intended.
The thing that happened with every single "Astramentis Scam Post" is - they tried to buy an "Astramentis" for cheap and got the "Strugglescream" traded instead, while they went over both security measures and accepted the trade.
There was nothing wrong with the trade side itself, they f'ed up the trade.
People were claiming the artwork was wrong in the trade website.
I already know that searching for Astramentis specifically will only yield Astramentis. I was checking whether or not searching for unidentified unique Stellar Amulets could return a buggy response from the API in which all items have the Astramentis artwork.
So someone that maybe didn't know Stellar Amulets had three different uniques could be misled by the trade website.
But that doesn't seem to be the case: the website correctly returns all 3 unique items, each one with its own specific artwork.
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Beitrag von_rt_#4636am 11.02.2025, 13:59:59
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With big trades especially you have to do your due diligence. GGG can not prevent scams like this one. You have to verify that you are getting what you are paying for.
Although I agree, you have to do your due diligence. This could EASILY be remedied by GGG. If the item in the trade window isn't the same exact item you whispered about, an additional confirmation window *could* pop up and say "THIS IS NOT THE ORIGINAL ITEM, ARE YOU SURE??" boom... easily solved.
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Beitrag vonsebzzz#6019am 11.02.2025, 16:20:44
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