Why doesnt the game pause while you are in a menu?

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Wraeclastian schrieb:

You want to know why you cannot pause the game? You cannot pause the game because all of the hardcore streamers would abuse it to avoid deaths and being sent into the Standard league. It's already bad enough that all of the hardcore players abuse exiting the game before they die to save their characters.

dude. wtf. you said basically the same thing.
how the hell do you imagine pause work? they will do the same thing - exit the game. with or without pause.

if ggg wants to implement mechanisms against that - diablo 3 has a very good example - if you want to leave the rift / game you need to wait (among the monsters) for 10 seconds. if you just alt+f4 or pause and exit or anything, you are dead anyway. you cannot just pause and exit.

think a bit outside the box you are in...

PS: why the hell do you care about what hardcore streamers are doing? or as a matter of fact, what anyone else is doing. this is not a competitive game.

I am guessing no one is actually against a pause button here. Just afraid of the consequences.

You guys also should take into account the fact that D3 is crazy simple kiddie trash. Everything in that game was made to be noob friendly. This game is meant to be challenging, and for hardcore ARPG fans. Most games that try to be difficult won't let you pause. Look at Souls, Phantasy Star, and Monster Hunter. Those games have never let you pause, because they're real games. They don't give a fuck what you got going on, they just want you dead.

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Shmu1 schrieb:

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Wraeclastian schrieb:

You want to know why you cannot pause the game? You cannot pause the game because all of the hardcore streamers would abuse it to avoid deaths and being sent into the Standard league. It's already bad enough that all of the hardcore players abuse exiting the game before they die to save their characters.

dude. wtf. you said basically the same thing.
how the hell do you imagine pause work? they will do the same thing - exit the game. with or without pause.

if ggg wants to implement mechanisms against that - diablo 3 has a very good example - if you want to leave the rift / game you need to wait (among the monsters) for 10 seconds. if you just alt+f4 or pause and exit or anything, you are dead anyway. you cannot just pause and exit.

think a bit outside the box you are in...

PS: why the hell do you care about what hardcore streamers are doing? or as a matter of fact, what anyone else is doing. this is not a competitive game.

A little butt-hurt aren't you?

POE is a competitive game though, it has PVP and league rankings.

The example I gave about hardcore players abusing game mechanics by exiting the game before death to save their characters is exactly why their is no pause button.

If you don't like it, tough shit, because it's a fact.

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Wraeclastian schrieb:

The example I gave about hardcore players abusing game mechanics by exiting the game before death to save their characters is exactly why their is no pause button.
If you don't like it, tough shit, because it's a fact.

how is that a fact? has someone at GGG specifically said that?

also, I still fail to see how a pause would help them more than exiting the game. is not like you are allowed to do shit in pause like drink potions and stuf.

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BloodPuddles420 schrieb:

You guys also should take into account the fact that D3 is crazy simple kiddie trash. Everything in that game was made to be noob friendly. This game is meant to be challenging, and for hardcore ARPG fans. Most games that try to be difficult won't let you pause. Look at Souls, Phantasy Star, and Monster Hunter. Those games have never let you pause, because they're real games. They don't give a fuck what you got going on, they just want you dead.

dude...

first of all, D3 is not simple kiddie trash.
sure... at a basic level you can look at it like that. but try to get top 10 leaderboard. I can tell you for sure you won't be able to do it unless you know gameplay mechanics very well and execute them near perfect. even top 100 is difficult (even if there were a paragon cap or something so we take out the ppl that play 24/7).

second... who defines a "real game"? a game is something ppl enjoy. some ppl enjoy easy games, some ppl enjoy hard games.

i still don't see how a pause button will take out the fun out of ppl that like hard games (not to mention that they can IGNORE the mechanic)

and i still don't see how a pause button will help IN GAME with anything. can you please explain? like with a real situation in game where a pause will help.

all i see a pause button do is help you IRL if a "situation" occurs so you don't have to go to town to lose a portal of a map or shaper or anything. it will be even harder for you if you decide to pause than go to town, as going town refills your flasks.

PS: if there will be a pause button, you can CHOOSE not to pause, like you can choose to play SC /HC / SSF. it's all about your choices.

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Shmu1 schrieb:

dude...

first of all, D3 is not simple kiddie trash.
sure... at a basic level you can look at it like that. but try to get top 10 leaderboard. I can tell you for sure you won't be able to do it unless you know gameplay mechanics very well and execute them near perfect. even top 100 is difficult (even if there were a paragon cap or something so we take out the ppl that play 24/7).

Lol I don't think you ever tried to push too hard in that game. If you can do the T10 no set challenge (which is a moderate challenge at best) you're way beyond capable of being #1. It's just spending the time grinding out full primal versions of your equipment. Top tier grifters always play single skill long range setups and try to make sure to stay far enough away enemies can't hit them.

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Shmu1 schrieb:

how is that a fact? has someone at GGG specifically said that?

also, I still fail to see how a pause would help them more than exiting the game. is not like you are allowed to do shit in pause like drink potions and stuf.

Yes, it has been discussed during the beta.

Should be completely doable when you're not in a party.
But for brown nosers of course impossible, game breaking even. Guess what, shit's already broken af.
And I don't want to see schmucks in towns and their stupid mtx who make my loading times sky rocket and tank fps, and crash my game. But that would also be impossible cause some sucker will go 'shudup and take my moneys, I'm getting those wings that dude has omg pog so happy'

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BloodPuddles420 schrieb:

Lol I don't think you ever tried to push too hard in that game. If you can do the T10 no set challenge (which is a moderate challenge at best) you're way beyond capable of being #1. It's just spending the time grinding out full primal versions of your equipment. Top tier grifters always play single skill long range setups and try to make sure to stay far enough away enemies can't hit them.

if you're reffering to POE, sure.
if diablo, no. top players know all about mechanics like pilon spawns (including spawn locations), monster aggro, monster types, map layouts, breakpoints, and plenty of other things. things that require knowledge and execution, just like poe. i suggest you refrain from talking about games you know very little of.
PS: T10 set challenge is nothing. it's kids's play. it's like doing T5 maps.

i still don't see a well explained reason pause should not exist when you in a menu (ex pressing ESC). all i see is
- it will lag the game (that coming from players and not GGG)
- it will make the game easier somehow (no explanation whatsoever)
- it will let HC players abuse something... i don't understand what since they already abuse the exit game - which in the way it works is far "better" for abusers than just pause which will basically do nothing for them.