Holy shit! With each patch PoE is lagging worse and worse?

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Necromael schrieb:

I had same issues as you did, no matter the settings being high or lowest, game behaved same regardlessly on a decent pc that ran new games on stable fps on medium settings.

So I invested and bought a new high end pc, and suddenly poe has 1 second area loading times coupled with constant 60 fps without a single drop in last 3 weeks. (60 fps because I still use an old screen)

Now that I have no issues I cant offer real advice and can only sympathize with you regarding this thing, that also frustrated me for last 3 years (my cpu was a bottleneck, amd one 6300 series)

If poe had a good engine, or optimization that actually works (on my old pc dynamic resolution sometimes refused to work for hours randomly) it would easily be a 9/10 or more game for me.

So to help us all out and determine the level of upgrade necessary to get a much better performance level please list the hardware you had and the hardware you upgraded to: cpu, video, and DDR4 memory speed (I have a limited budget). I already have a Samsung SSD. Thank you.

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GrandTickler schrieb:

Can confirm lag.

Sometimes instances on the Amsterdam gateway get very laggy/spiking, after resetting said instance the lag magically disapears.

People who blame it on the computer have no idea what they're talking about. I doubt they tested every single gateway.

The Internet as a privatization of the old military network from the cold war era is auto-routing our data packets from point A to point B (client PoE to PoE realm server). Internet data routing is done via the BGP protocol and can travel to/from a PoE realm over completely different routes. Since we have no control on that we could be routed many different ways and some Internet paths are better than others. When I get a particularly bad connection to the WDC realm coming from SW Florida (usually a problem at the Atlanta NAP but not always and usually Sunday afternoon (must be more Internet traffic at this time), I logout and then back in to see if that gets me a better routing of my PoE data packets. I find it's a 50/50 chance of getting a better/lower latency link.

If more players can post their before and after hardware specs that make PoE play nice, with enough data we can better define what Internet latency and cpu + gpu levels are necessary to get a solid 60 fps most of the time. Every little bit of information is helpful.

Thank you.

I lag a lot after the last patch with no explanation. No skill changes no computer changes...

It's very noticeable on every map when I approach packs now.

@arrowneus
old pc - bought january 2015, ran far cry 5 and witcher 3 on 60fps on medium settings, which i'd say is pretty decent



with this configuration average path of exile fps 2 years ago was around 60, but with latest patches it became 20-30 with crashes when loading town areas

new pc :



btw, new pc is technically high end, at least where i live, 3rd world country, guess in western europe it would be average

Thanks for the specs on your gaming rig hardware. Looks like I'll need to upgrade soon if I want to continue playing PoE.

I just ran a map and had 3 syndicate encounters. One was an incursion for which I was doing well at the start but after 15 to 20 secs the framerate went down so much that I ended up lag dieing. I'm just seeing such a major increase in amount of lag in large mob packs over just Betrayal League which wasn't lagging much at all.

I hate GGG for not being straight up honest with us and directly addressing this problem head on. Even if GGG has to admit that due to code changes client PoE is doing much more data processing so players with older CPUs may experience performance issues (severe framerate drops) and that we will need to plan on upgrading to a faster cpu.

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I switched to Windowed mode so I can see the Task Manager cpu and memory utilization while running an Atoll map.



Just portal-ed back to my hideout and that is some heavy cpu usage going on. My 4C/8T i7 is getting slammed hard at over 70% loads across 8 cpu threads in the map. Hyperthreading may be causing more harm than good so I'll turn it off and see what PoE does with just 4 cores.

How old is your CPU anyway Arrow?

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Necromael schrieb:

@arrowneus
old pc - bought january 2015, ran far cry 5 and witcher 3 on 60fps on medium settings, which i'd say is pretty decent

Spoiler

AMD FX X6 6300 3.5Ghz (4.1GHz)
LC POWER LC-CC-95, socket 775/1155/1156/AMD
Gigabyte 970A DS3P, AM3+ mobo
Crucial 8GB DDR3 1600 Mhz (PC3-12800) CL11
Gigabyte GV-R927XOC-2GD, AMD RadeonT R9 270X, PCI-E 3.0, 2048MB GDDR5
Seagate HDD, 1TB, 7200rpm

with this configuration average path of exile fps 2 years ago was around 60, but with latest patches it became 20-30 with crashes when loading town areas

new pc :

Spoiler

AMD Ryzen 5 2600X MAX Limited Edition, 3600/4200 MHz, Socket AM4 + wraith max cooler
ASROCK B450M Pro4, socket AM4, DDR4, VGA, DVI-D, HDMI
G.SKILL 16 GB (2x8 GB) DDR4, 3000 MHz, DIMM, Aegis
PALIT nVidia GeForce GTX1060 Dual, 6 GB GDDR5
SSD disk 250 GB, SAMSUNG 970 EVO, M.2 2280, PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe, read 3400mb/s, write 1500mbs/s
2 TB, SEAGATE BarraCuda, 3.5", SATA III, 7200 rpm, 256 MB, ST2000DM008

btw, new pc is technically high end, at least where i live, 3rd world country, guess in western europe it would be average

The old one even is MORE then fine for PoE.
Mine is a little bit better then your old one and I around 50 tabs and several programs open in the background, still a smooth-sail with some little hiccups from the tabs in the browser.

One issue could be: Are you running PoE over the Steam Client? If so, use the standalone.
Something is wrong there and GGG DIRELY has to fix it, Steam PoE is not playable for many.

Okay... here's a sensible idea.

1. Set all your graphical settings to Low Quality; the Game still looks good anyway.

2. Use the Path of Exile Standalone Client; NOT the Steam version.

Doing these two things seems to have eliminated much of the Lag I was experiencing, and no more grinding HDD as Steam crunches on updates.

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Coranth12x829 schrieb:

Okay... here's a sensible idea.

1. Set all your graphical settings to Low Quality; the Game still looks good anyway.

2. Use the Path of Exile Standalone Client; NOT the Steam version.

Doing these two things seems to have eliminated much of the Lag I was experiencing, and no more grinding HDD as Steam crunches on updates.

3. Stop watching netflix/youtube/whatnot on a secondary monitor. Watching video turns my game into a spiky laggy mess.

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Dharall schrieb:

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Coranth12x829 schrieb:

Okay... here's a sensible idea.

1. Set all your graphical settings to Low Quality; the Game still looks good anyway.

2. Use the Path of Exile Standalone Client; NOT the Steam version.

Doing these two things seems to have eliminated much of the Lag I was experiencing, and no more grinding HDD as Steam crunches on updates.

3. Stop watching netflix/youtube/whatnot on a secondary monitor. Watching video turns my game into a spiky laggy mess.

Then you don't have enough RAM to buffer the video + have the advertising running (flash is crap) and keep the RAM usage of the browser itself in check.