[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

Thanks for the build and loot filter. Just wanted to ask for an update of the Windripper build. I've been super lucky so far and found Windripper and Voltaxic after buying a 250+dps pdps bow. If you could provide a scion tree that would be great too as I went assassin raider but if not I'm sure I can adjust the ranger tree.
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Frankenberry schrieb:

Yup. Powerful precision works like point blank, so the pierce bonus will never get below 50%.
So either go for 50% extra pierce chance from passives or from gem :)


But:

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Vipermagi schrieb:
Powerful Precision does not have a minimum amount of Pierce chance, it'll drop straight to zero if the Projectile remains in flight long enough.


Who is correct?
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Hey NeverSink, thanks for the guide.

I just rolled as a scion and will become a assassin-raider on the new ladder.

Quick question. I just invested into buying a drillneck and a 20%quality pierce. Should I A) get the pierce cluster along with it, B) just use the gem, or C) was it a waste to invest in the 20% quality gem and just use the pierce cluster.

Thanks a lot!
With how cheap drillnecks are this league, would you go for powerful precision or still stick with far shot on a drillneck+pierce setup?
Hello, i like to know which ascendary class i should pick up.
Stats:

100% Pierce
1.5k Evasion
56% Dodge & Spell Dodge
3.9k Life

I use TS for both single and aoe, tried LA/BR already but i choos to stick on TS.
I think chain deadeye would be nice but a friend told me that its not possible to chain if i have 100% pierce.
So i asking myself: Onslaught Raider or is it worth to respec to Chain Deadeye.
Zuletzt bearbeitet von Evil_D_Ark#4264 um 08.03.2016, 06:26:09
As much as i like the build and guide, there is so much confusion goin on here. Some clarifications would be highly appreciated.

So What about Tornado and Deadeye +1 chain? Can anybody out there tell me about the current state? I hear everywhere that its counterproductive due to tornado shot's pierce. Am confused :S

Thanks in advance.

Sorry for bad english
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bbqmarshal schrieb:
As much as i like the build and guide, there is so much confusion goin on here. Some clarifications would be highly appreciated.

So What about Tornado and Deadeye +1 chain? Can anybody out there tell me about the current state? I hear everywhere that its counterproductive due to tornado shot's pierce. Am confused :S

Thanks in advance.

Sorry for bad english


" Pierce
The projectile passes through the enemy and continues along its previous trajectory. Piercing may have less than a 100% chance. Pierce chance is rolled independently for every hit. If a projectile fails to pierce one of the other effects listed in this section may apply. "

found this on wiki page so first pierce roll than fork roll than chain roll

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Projectile
Zuletzt bearbeitet von Evil_D_Ark#4264 um 08.03.2016, 06:56:23
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flyaway_kong schrieb:
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Frankenberry schrieb:

Yup. Powerful precision works like point blank, so the pierce bonus will never get below 50%.
So either go for 50% extra pierce chance from passives or from gem :)


But:

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Vipermagi schrieb:
Powerful Precision does not have a minimum amount of Pierce chance, it'll drop straight to zero if the Projectile remains in flight long enough.


Who is correct?


"Projectiles have 100% additional chance to Pierce targets at the start of their movement, losing this chance as the projectile travels further"
because of these two underlined words, I'm tempted to say it's Frankenberry, despite Vipermagi has very extensive knowledge of game mechanics.

"Additional" means it's a separate stack from "increased" (afaik), and "this" refers to the bonus granted by Powerful Precision.

I'll drop a PM to Vipermagi to have his idea on this.
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Zuletzt bearbeitet von Panini_aux_olives#1967 um 08.03.2016, 06:59:54
"Powerful precision works like point blank, so the pierce bonus will never get below 50%."
...what?

Point Blank starts at +50% Damage and ends at -50% Damage, for a total drop of 100 points.
Now you tell me how you came to the conlusion that this means Powerful Precision, which 'works like Point Blank', should only drop by 50 points total instead.

I see no reason whatsoever to assume that Powerful Precision caps at 50% Pierce chance.

If you have 50% Pierce elsewhere, from the Pierce gem for example, then your total Pierce won't drop below 50% - but PP's bonus will go from 100 to 0 still.
Zuletzt bearbeitet von Vipermagi#0984 um 08.03.2016, 08:09:00
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Vipermagi schrieb:
... the Pierce gem for example, then your total Pierce won't drop below 50% - but PP's bonus will go from 100 to 0 still.
That's exactly what we wanted to know.
Ranger builds list: /917964
When two witches watch two watches, which witch watches which watch?
If the witches watching watches watch the same watch while you watch which witch watches which watch, they switch watches; then, the watch switching witches watch which watch you watch.
Watching witches watch watches is not for the faint of heart...

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