Putting all my Feedback in one Thread

Its just easier to write a comprehensive Feedback Thread than writing many small ones.

Starting of with the Campaign:

Straight up too long. Its a good Campaign dont get me wrong, but doing the Campaign every league is a chore. Its also fairly unfair, some classes can do the Campaign way faster than other classes. They get inherent Movement speed Bonuses or Movement Speed Penalty reductions. Or movement skills. The longer the Campaign is the more Speed bonuses snowball. Also a reason why some classes are simply played more.

My suggestion here is simply make the Campaign smaller, give Boots implicit movement speed, make movement skills more available. Dont limit them to specific weapons or attribute requirements or add more of them. Also by smaller i mean area size. The area size is still just to much. Nobody wants to be in one area for ages searching for sth.

Some area size are also unlogically huge. For example "Buried Shrine" Its a shrine, but its the size of a city.

Then we have some obsolete areas. Buried Shrine, Spires of Deshar or Heart of the tribe. The areas are cool, but they have no purpose. They exist to make the Campaign longer.

The Campaign should simply be more streamlined.

Leagues in General:

I dont understand the point in having full fledged League Mechanics. They take away lots of development Time, when the goal is to finish the game first. GGG you should simply focus on finishing the game first before anything else. Classes and Acts and a proper Endgame should be the top Priority with 0.4 you focused more on a league mechanics than on making the endgame enjoyable. You didnt finish the things you have planned for the endgame. But you actually have a huge League mechanic. That probably took a lot of time to do.

Then League Mechanics of 0.4:

Its straight up not thought through. Getting into the Temple takes 6 Maps and then doing the Temple is pretty much not worth it. Im not in endgame because of Campaign boredom. But what i saw from the Temple is enough to tell me that most of the temple is definitely not worth doing in the endgame. Who needs an Exalt workshop in the endgame that does exactly the same as an exalt. Whats the point? And from what i read it also has mediocre Loot.

When youre not at the 6th map then the loot you get from the League Mechanic is pretty bad, especially if we compare it to Abyss.
Then why in the world do you need so much loading screens when entering the temple?
I mean yes the League Mechanic looks pretty fun, pacing the titles planning your temple is fun. But actually playing the temple then fells bad.
When you actually do leagues for the EA Phase of the game make them good!!!

Classes and skills and Passive Tree:

This is a huge one but i make it really short or try to.
I see a massive problem with how everything works together. With Druid we got more skills, but basically nobody than druid uses them. Besides maybe the 2 Plant skills and Thundestorm. Im wrong here that only Druid uses the the primal skills.

Then the Shapeshift from duid is cool, but it has the same issue than many other things in the game. It works in a void. The prerquisites to actually use many of the skills or the bonus effects are specific.

Lets take Infusions for example. Infusions only works with a specific number of spells. And even then its weird to use them. Why not make infusions work with attack skills too? Or make them work with more spells. Its a narrow mechanic thats rarely used because of that.

Then we have that wet thing from Thunderstorm its exclusive to just that skill but it can potentially affect so many other skills. Why can only this skill do that? Will we get water spell in the future??

Its just sth that goes through all of the skills, they work with only a small number of other skills together and have absolutely zero synergy with others. Making the usecases of many skills extremely narrow.

The passive tree also has some issues limiting the build freedom. Its extremely hard to get from one section of the Tree to another. I cant for example use Pathfinder together with the Plant Bow skills and "Wildsurge Incantation", first it only works with spells for some fucking reason and even getting there is not worth it.

Then so many Nodes are just absolute Nonsense. There is a node thta limits Volatility to 30. Also Volatility is another things that has absolutely no or very narrow usecase. Not even with Chayula which is the only ascandancy that can use it. Its just useless.

Bugs and Problems:

This was very apparent at the end of last league. It was an absolutely fucked up situation. Loot was bad. Ritual Tablets were nonexistent. Lot of things were bugged or are still bugged. It was bad.
And GGG decided to simply ignore every concern of the people. No information nothing. They just continued as usual.

GGG your Communication is bad. There are problems in one of your game and they get ignored. Yes its late in the League, but there still more palyers playing it than other games have players. You cant just ignore your community. That is just horrible.

Communication:

As mentioned its not good. That doesnt mean its really bad communication. In general you do a decent job. But your communication isnt direct to the player its through intermediaries. Some more direct communication wouldnt be bad. Answeing some feedback in the forum or answering some Bug threads. That would improve Communication a lot. You dont answer Feedback at all!! and Bug reports get rarely even answers and never questions. Never did i see a question where you want to confirm the cause of a bug. You probably just try to figure out the bug internally which is slow. Asking for more information from the person who encountered the bug makes it easier to understand the cause of the bug and therefore faster.

Concerns about EA time:

As of now the development of POE2 is really slow. 1 act 2 classes in a year. Well that means we get the full game in 2028. That is 3 years in Early access development. Thats a long time for a fairly big studio like GGG with over a decade of experience.

Another thing is the Known issue sthread, i mentioned this already a copuple times. That thread can be deleted. You dont use it its completely meaningless to even have it.

Edit 1:

Feeling of Loot:

During Campaign espüecially i have the feeling that Loot doesnt make you really excited. You dont have the feeling that the stuff you drop really impacts what you do.

What really impacts what you do is buying sth. off the merchant. Its really rare that items you drop make you excited and you wanna equip the item. ARPGs like Path of Exile live of off Loot Fiesta and Loot excitement if you lose the dopamin of dropping something and you just go "Yeah another item to sell for Gold" then something is off.

Ok this is well written but they do some impressive amount of additions and give us a league mechanic, they dont have to at all. The amount of precision on all the balancing is gigantic we should not expect perfection... yet or ever with PoE.

They test and try new stuff too its normal and we paid to help them with it, this league so far had the most stable economy. Last league we had an inflation of x3 at this point it was pretty rough for people who started a week+ late.

GGG is from what i saw and heard the most transparent studio in the industry but you do have to watch all the interviews etc to get the information and they do tons of those.

You might need to put the game on pause until it is fully released... If its a joke well i cant tell so gg you got me.

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frank244#1674 schrieb:

Ok this is well written but they do some impressive amount of additions and give us a league mechanic, they dont have to at all. The amount of precision on all the balancing is gigantic we should not expect perfection... yet or ever with PoE.

They test and try new stuff too its normal and we paid to help them with it, this league so far had the most stable economy. Last league we had an inflation of x3 at this point it was pretty rough for people who started a week+ late.

GGG is from what i saw and heard the most transparent studio in the industry but you do have to watch all the interviews etc to get the information and they do tons of those.

You might need to put the game on pause until it is fully released... If its a joke well i cant tell so gg you got me.

The communication is always through an intermediary. There is no direct communication.

If we compare GGG to for example Warframes Forum. You have way more replies from actual Staff in their Forum than in this. They update Known Issues way more frequently, show more transparency too.

They pin comments in the forum saying they investigating bugs, pinned comments in the thread saying its on their radar. You get edited threads saying its investigated or fix pending. Stuff like that is better Communication.

Then we look at for example Black Desert. They constantly apply feedback from the community, say who suggested it, when it was updated etc.
They are more transparent and have therefore better communication.

Doesnt mean GGG has bad communication if you compare it to for example Ubisoft or EA or Activision, but that shouldnt be the comparison we should make. We should compare it to the better examples.

A small Update:

Checkpoints and Sprint:
Checkpoints and sprint are basically a Bandaid for the main Problem. Movement Speed and lack of Movement abilities and too big areas.
Sprint is okay, but it doesnt solve the problem that you move like a snail if u dont sprint. Its supposed to be high risk high reward, but in the end its risk for no reward really.

Movement speed and penalty reduction will always be really important because the faster you can clear maps and finish campaign the better for your own economy. And economy is a huge part of trade league. And for SSF the faster u can go the better for your level and loot.

Checkpoints are there to help you if you die. But they are the result of feedback that maps are too big. Instead of fixing map size you added checkpoints instead of fixing the root problem.

+1 billion to the Campaign part - also it's not every league, it's every character you make!

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SilverWF#6383 schrieb:

+1 billion to the Campaign part - also it's not every league, it's every character you make!

Oh no, you have to play the game.

get a life, just wait for 2026 patches and come back.

no campaign skip, we will get act5 and act6 and thats good. campaign is the game.

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lamkadwa#0882 schrieb:

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SilverWF#6383 schrieb:

+1 billion to the Campaign part - also it's not every league, it's every character you make!

Oh no, you have to play the game.

So you do think doing stupid campaign is equal to the playing the game? lol

You forgot:

Rng. Ltrs. Typd

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Darosius#3984 schrieb:

get a life, just wait for 2026 patches and come back.

no campaign skip, we will get act5 and act6 and thats good. campaign is the game.

Me? I never ever said i want a campaign skip. And i also dont want one.

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lamkadwa#0882 schrieb:

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SilverWF#6383 schrieb:

+1 billion to the Campaign part - also it's not every league, it's every character you make!

Oh no, you have to play the game.

Well youre on Probation and cant answer me, but the Campaign is part of the game and not the game and the campaign does not change. It stays the same every time you play it. Well in the end that will be the case.

Also you dont have much to do in the Campaign than go form area to area and kill bosses. Yes that is fun for a couple times. But not fun if you play it for the 20th time. It becomes very easy.

U maybe get small changes with league mechanics and small class changes, but ultimately not much changes. I know there are Purists out there who love to play the campaign over and over, but those are pretty much the minority.