THAT'S IT GGG - YOU LOST 200K PLAYERS WITH THIS!

MORE CAPS!!!!!!!!!! MOOOOOOOOOOOORE CAAAAAAAAAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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EffKayZA#1861 schrieb:

I have also noticed that there is a lot of toxicity and needless aggression in these forums.

It also appears to be a bit one-sided. In defence of higher difficulty / more punishing game mechanics.

It's not very one-sided imo, it's pretty universal regardless of what they're arguing for. I wouldn't pin the blame for this on one specific type of viewpoint.

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AceNightfire#0980 schrieb:

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Alivkos#3986 schrieb:

Oh yes, go ahead be nice, that works wonders.
No wonder we got constantly updated game(oh wait) and not another early access scam.
NPC behavior as usual.

There's a difference between being "critical" and "toxic". There's a difference between saying "The current silence is not good for the game" and "GGG you piece of s***, TALK TO US!". Same meaning, but one being constructive, while the other is just plain toxic and leads to more toxicism.

'Toxic' is just an excuse for getting your feelings hurt.
You want a good game?
Make yourself heard, rude or not.
We are customers, we ain't developer friends.
I don't understand why people like you don't want the game to be good.
If you treat developers like people and not a medium between you and getting a good game you get a product like this early access, which is mainly asset flip, unfinished, unpolished and unlikely was in development for 8 years

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MarsAstro#7928 schrieb:

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EffKayZA#1861 schrieb:

I have also noticed that there is a lot of toxicity and needless aggression in these forums.

It also appears to be a bit one-sided. In defence of higher difficulty / more punishing game mechanics.

It's not very one-sided imo, it's pretty universal regardless of what they're arguing for. I wouldn't pin the blame for this on one specific type of viewpoint.

Yes, saying one-side is at fault here is the wrong approach. No side can actually be toxic if the other side would actually ignore the toxic behavior. And that means both sides are very likely equally toxic.

Not saying all players here are toxic, but I fear that those who have good intentions will leave, if their feedback get multiple toxic replies. And if that happens: what's left is a small amount of the current playerbase actually posting here and going at each others throat.

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Alivkos#3986 schrieb:

'Toxic' is just an excuse for getting your feelings hurt.
You want a good game?
Make yourself heard, rude or not.
We are customers, we ain't developer friends.

First of all, you didn't pay to play the game. You bought a supporter pack and got ingame points and cosmetics for that. On top of that, it also granted you access to EA. But if you wanted to play the game for free, you could've waited 6-12 month. So the argument "I'm a customer and that allows me to say whatever I want" is a disrespect against the people who actually brought this game to us.

PoE2 is not a scam and no one forced to pay anything, yet you feel entitled to swear against GGG if you don't like something? Do you also behave like this in real life? You go and eat somewhere, you don't like the food and then start swearing and screaming against the chef at broad daylight? Are you the guy that always wants to speak to the manager as soon as something is not to your liking?

I'm someone who speaks their mind. But I learned how to do it in a proper way. Do I really get better results by swearing and insulting? Or do I get better results being constructive when I dislike something? I can promise you that no one wants to work with you if you are the former type of guy. A guy that is constantly negative and doesn't know how discuss dissatisfaction in a constructive way.

So no, being toxic is not a given right just because you're a potential customer.

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Alivkos#3986 schrieb:

I don't understand why people like you don't want the game to be good.
If you treat developers like people and not a medium between you and getting a good game you get a product like this early access, which is mainly asset flip, unfinished, unpolished and unlikely was in development for 8 years

Oh, I really want this game to be good. I already gave my feedback and shared my experience and there are alot of things I would like to see changed. So yes, the game has definitely it's flaws. But I don't see any reason to swear and insult.

Also, if GGG wanted to scam us, they could have released the game in it's current state as 1.0. There were games released as 1.0 in a way worse state then PoE2 (example: No Mans Sky, Cyberpunk 2077, Diablo 3). But they decided to go EA, because they still want to polish the game. That's exactly what EA is for. The game is in a playable state, players can give feedback and the game will change significantly until full release.

Example: Baldurs Gate 3 did the same. It started very unpolished with only one act and a few classes and today it's one of the best games ever released. They had a VERY positive community and the devs could easily engage with players on different plattforms. But here? If I would be someone from GGG, why would I ever post something here? All I would receive is toxic responses in the end. At least, those people would be the dominant ones.

And if you look at the number of views/replies in those posts its like 300 players. And also in those threads you will see aproximetly half of the replies are people disagreeing with the post. And then you take into account that the game steadily has had 300k+ players since release who are playing and enjoying the game.

You are in a vast minority here.
Not every game is made for everyone, find something you enjoy instead of crying to have the game nerfed down to your level.

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Nyon#6673 schrieb:

And if you look at the number of views/replies in those posts its like 300 players. And also in those threads you will see aproximetly half of the replies are people disagreeing with the post. And then you take into account that the game steadily has had 300k+ players since release who are playing and enjoying the game.

You are in a vast minority here.
Not every game is made for everyone, find something you enjoy instead of crying to have the game nerfed down to your level.

May I ask whom your referring to?

Gambling Gear Games is a Chinese holiday company that ignores paying customers :D

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AceNightfire#0980 schrieb:

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Nyon#6673 schrieb:

And if you look at the number of views/replies in those posts its like 300 players. And also in those threads you will see aproximetly half of the replies are people disagreeing with the post. And then you take into account that the game steadily has had 300k+ players since release who are playing and enjoying the game.

You are in a vast minority here.
Not every game is made for everyone, find something you enjoy instead of crying to have the game nerfed down to your level.

May I ask whom your referring to?

When you make a post, and someone reply to it, their typically replying to you.

Reminder that typing in Capslock makes your post more important!

That said the silence is weird. Feels like Console support team has overtaken all of GGG.