Path of Exile 2 Mana Cost Issue

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TheHellBlazer1#1871 schrieb:

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PaintMaster#2396 schrieb:

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TheHellBlazer1#1871 schrieb:

Hey!
I currently use "Ice Strike" as my main skill (5 linked not even 6), I simply have mana issues I've 26% less cost from the tree, 40% from inspiration, and this sh*t still has 94 mana cost, it is an attack not even a spell or sth, even the spells don't cost this much.

It's nearly unplayable, I've 80 mana regen + I use font of mana on the bell, and I spam mana flask and still run out of mana against pinnacle bosses.
I don't even wanna think about putting 5th support gem.
Please do something about it, thanks in advance.

First of all, its base cost of Ice Strike, not it's actual manacost that depends on supports used, you looking at wrong number...

What happens when u reduce the base mana cost of the skill Big Brain?

Do you understand that number you looking at doesn't show actual manacost?

You said "26% less cost from the tree, 40% from inspiration, and this sh*t still has 94 mana cost, it is an attack not even a spell or sth, even the spells don't cost this much."

Again, that 94 mana you looking at is static value of that skill at that level, it doesn't show actual manacost of skill.

I know it's the base mana cost, it's been 2 months, look at the thread date. But I don't see any "Base Mana Cost" text here in the description and that's also another issue and that doesn't change the fact that I'm having mana issues.

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TheHellBlazer1#1871 schrieb:

My build scales with elemental damage instead of conversion from physical so I'll repeat again "Leech on PHYSICAL HIT" does not work for me.

Ok mister "leech on kill" , time for you to unplug this keyboard and start actually reading what the better players have said so far . I already addressed your wah wah here :

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What is BS is most of you people who complain about mana substain because you decided to completely ignore Mana Leech . So either you go for Time-Lost buffs , Mana on Kill , the unique that grant Mana on Hit , or whatever . The mechanics are what they are , mana substain is a big part of designing a good build , GGG should not lower the bar here .

my build doesn't do physical so i can't leech wah wah i don't want to think wah wah

THEN RESPEC YOUR BUILD AND START DOING SOME PHYSICAL/LEECH --- HARD MUCH ???

My build is at 90-100% elem damage apart from the two complementary PHYSICAL-MANA-LEECHERS skills that i added to my build to fix his MANA SUBSTAIN from occurring even though i got +5 Levels to Melee Skill .

YOUR BUILD SUCK ? FIX YOUR BUILD

Hahah OP - I posted the other day my 5 link stampede at default level 282 mana ON A WARRIOR - add a +7 melee weapon, 512 mana and the strength node you take removes like 30-40% of your mana pool. Your 96 is nada but your point is valid as my deadeye was rough as guts, 16% leech from items, 4% on kill, 80% more leech from passives lol, mana is pretty shit in this as it is right now. But so is a lot of things.

Mana cost has a lot of problems now.

1) First of all, and the most problematic(in a balance view), spells cost almost the same as attacks, but amazingly, you can increase your spell damage by getting more mana, while attacks can't.

2) It's mainly because of the first one, but it's still another problem, as long as you have more mana, you get more mana regeneration, so if you don't have much mana, your regeneration will be nothing. So casters can use their spells without any problems.

3) Some skills deals no damage with low level, then you need to get high levels, the base cost increases exponentially, for no reason.

For sure there are more problems, but I think fixing those, will improve a lot, but looks like it's how the game should be, almost 2 months already and no changes.

Most of the boss fights during the acts revolve around you running and using normal attack, waiting for the mana to regen.

That's quite ridiculous.

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Ashyev#5110 schrieb:

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TheHellBlazer1#1871 schrieb:

My build scales with elemental damage instead of conversion from physical so I'll repeat again "Leech on PHYSICAL HIT" does not work for me.

Ok mister "leech on kill" , time for you to unplug this keyboard and start actually reading what the better players have said so far . I already addressed your wah wah here :

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What is BS is most of you people who complain about mana substain because you decided to completely ignore Mana Leech . So either you go for Time-Lost buffs , Mana on Kill , the unique that grant Mana on Hit , or whatever . The mechanics are what they are , mana substain is a big part of designing a good build , GGG should not lower the bar here .

my build doesn't do physical so i can't leech wah wah i don't want to think wah wah

THEN RESPEC YOUR BUILD AND START DOING SOME PHYSICAL/LEECH --- HARD MUCH ???

My build is at 90-100% elem damage apart from the two complementary PHYSICAL-MANA-LEECHERS skills that i added to my build to fix his MANA SUBSTAIN from occurring even though i got +5 Levels to Melee Skill .

YOUR BUILD SUCK ? FIX YOUR BUILD

What's the point of having a choice then? In your POV everyone should follow a guide, everyone should play physical conversion Ice Strike, why do we even have a choice then?
You're saying they should remove the other options, make it like Diablo 4 or even worse... This is not Path of Exile.

Y my build suck haha :) When u guys were following that early physical damage build, and saying "look my Ice Strike shows 40k damage in hideout" I had 150k in hideout. Surely my build must be s*ck :)

Anyway, there is no point of answering you again "respec your build and start doing physical" That is what she said. This surely is a solution :)

I mean why do you even comment? Your physical conversion works, good, play it then, I didn't say the opposite.
TLDR: Pure elemental damage is also an option, and it's not balanced.
Why am I playing pure elemental? Because I can. Why do I complain about it then? Because I can, because it's not balanced, because they gave that option to me?

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Sydneydonza#3078 schrieb:

Hahah OP - I posted the other day my 5 link stampede at default level 282 mana ON A WARRIOR - add a +7 melee weapon, 512 mana and the strength node you take removes like 30-40% of your mana pool. Your 96 is nada but your point is valid as my deadeye was rough as guts, 16% leech from items, 4% on kill, 80% more leech from passives lol, mana is pretty shit in this as it is right now. But so is a lot of things.

That's what I'm saying, your's sounds a lot for a warrior skill as well, idk the skill tho but if its base damage and % damage (like the hammer of gods? I don't remember its exact name) are high then it shouldn't be a problem. In my case I had 6 attack speed I believe and skill's per hit damage is mid, and it's a cold skill so it's half attack speed skill.

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TheHellBlazer1#1871 schrieb:

Y my build suck haha :) When u guys were following that early physical damage build, and saying "look my Ice Strike shows 40k damage in hideout" I had 150k in hideout. Surely my build must be s*ck :)

Waaah that's so cute , he made his low IQ one button mana-choking build for the sole purpose of boasting about "autoattack with +100K DPS when in town hihi" ... meanwhile in combat he can't do shit against T16 Diff4 bosses and the endgame meta is about getting stable multi-millions DPS . Completely out of touch LMAO .

Also i've given you on a silver plater just above several possibilities to FIX YOUR BAD BUILD but snorting these mana flasks probably made you blind to it , mister leech on kill . Anyway whatever , keep struggling mwahah o/

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Ashyev#5110 schrieb:

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TheHellBlazer1#1871 schrieb:

Y my build suck haha :) When u guys were following that early physical damage build, and saying "look my Ice Strike shows 40k damage in hideout" I had 150k in hideout. Surely my build must be s*ck :)

Waaah that's so cute , he made his low IQ one button mana-choking build for the sole purpose of boasting about "autoattack with +100K DPS when in town hihi" ... meanwhile in combat he can't do shit against T16 Diff4 bosses and the endgame meta is about getting stable multi-millions DPS . Completely out of touch LMAO .

Also i've given you on a silver plater just above several possibilities to FIX YOUR BAD BUILD but snorting these mana flasks probably made you blind to it , mister leech on kill . Anyway whatever , keep struggling mwahah o/

You're still having hard time against map bosses? It's been months and you're not even at the same level as my 2 months old Ice Strike build, I pity you.
I said pinnacle bosses not some trash mob, keep playing maybe you can kill T1 Xesht one day :) Also keep having fun with "leech on kill" Everyone understood what I said, I'm sure you do too... wait I'm not so sure!?
(This was really the last one, couldn't help myself, myman still having 1 min. fights against map bosses haha)