[3.21] Cold Conversion Summoner | Build guides for all budgets | (Ghazzy Zoomancer)
" Yeah, that's true, didn't think about the base honestly. Shouldn't make that big of a difference though. Missed the 20% dmg implicit though. After going through all Ascendencies for my build, Guardian looks to be the second strongest. It has some issues getting block capped though wish requires you to sacrifice alot of dps elsewhere to make up for lacking defensive layers. I think Guardians edge out during league start for most minion builds but once you start investing into items and skill gems costing Exalteds(Divines) I think it'll start to fall behind. Hope your AW build performs, AW seems to become the meta minion build this league. I think the Lightning Approach should be the strongest but everyone seems to be prepping up Poison and Chaos conversion AW builds. I tried to make an AW build 2 leagues ago, leveled up to 80 with other minion skills, then respecced into a theoretic AW build I had in mind. Quickly discovered you only could summon 1 AW at a time and was horrified. Thought it would summon ~5 like Skeletons. The playstyle felt so clunky that I unfortunately never logged into that character again :D If you can get past the playstyle though, their numbers seem to be pretty good. Not sure if I agree that it's the strongest minion skill out there though. I think normal melee skellies are better, both in throughput and playstyle. But not sure, haven't done the math to compare. |
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" Yeah, this is actually correct. Last league I leaguestarted with Absolution + Skellies + Zombies instead of SRS. Had totally forgotten about it. I think that's probably the best way to league start. Mainly because it's much easier to maintain 3 Sentinels of Absolution than trying to keep SRS minions up. Absolutions also seem to do way more dmg so they're definitely the best way to league start. Thought cause they had 50% dmg converted to lightning, they would be bad with Sidheraths Breah. But after testing them out in PoB they're just vastly superior. Thanks for the headsup, changed the leaguestarter from using SRS during the first acts to Absolution.
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Not keeping the Absolutions after Act4 though. Even if their numbers are better than x2 Golems at that point, the QoL playstyle of Golems and other passive minions is just too good. If anything, I would maybe think about swapping the FAS spectres for Absolution minions. But then again, my Act4 setup already has ~75k dps which is ALOT for act4, it'll probably oneshot all campaign bosses anyway. The Added clearspeed from having GMP + Spell echoing Frost Auto Scouts will just feel better when cruising through the acts. If your goal is to design a build during the campaign that ONYL utilizes one minion and disregards everything else though, Absolution is probably the best cause it has the best pure single target dps. But that's only in a vaccuum though. When we start to add groups of minions together, single target become less of an issue early on and it's more about efficiency and QoL. Absolution's biggest weakness is its abyssmal clearspeed. Zuletzt bearbeitet von Deadandlivin#2745 um 19.08.2022, 07:28:34
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Hi Deadandlivin,
thank you for updating the POB, will definitely level with that. Could you explain why Sidhebreath Paua Amulet should be so broken? Yes, it sounds nice that we are converting 50% of physical damage already to cold and push this with Hatred, but the last line make me a bit nervous. Dealing no non-cold damage. Are we then not losing some DPS as 50% of our damage will not be converted and therefore lost? |
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" You do lose some phys dmg, but the PoBs are scaling flat cold damage across the board. Sidhearths breth gives ~50 flat cold dmg to all minions that is not reduced by the dealing non-cold dmg mod. You can use it from level 1 which mean you're able to get ~50 flat cold dmg to all minions as soon as you start the league. As a comparison, lvl 1 Added Cold dmg gives ~5 flat cold damage and is available at level 8. So you quickly see how powerful this Amulet is. What you can do is open up the PoB and go through the different leveling setups in the acts. In each instance, unequip Sidhearths Breath. You'll notice that the amulet more than doubles the dps in most cases. As an example, the Act1 setup has 484 dps without it and 1244 dps with it equipped. The reason all minions are using Added Cold dmg support is because it's the only support gem that doesn't get hit by the 50% penalty. |
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Thank you! Crazy to see that we can push the damage so much with that amu.
Now we only have to hope that all of the uniques will be cheap to afford on day1. |
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" Shouldn't be more than 1 chaos for most of them :P Cold minions aren't really a thing outside of my build, so not many who'll be running Sidhearths. And Bitterdream makes your skill a 9-link which cost a crapton of mana. Most leaguestarters can't sustain the manacost of a 9-link so they can't run Bitterdream. Fortunately for us, we're using minions so we don't care about mana cost. Since Mages aren't meta anylonger, Alberons Warpath should also be extremely cheap. Grip of the Council follows the same logic as the amulet. Cold minions aren't a thing, so not many will be wanting it. Maw of Mischief, Skin of the Lords/The Covenant will be very expensive this first week though. Will probably be running a Tabula or a random corrupted 6-link with some life for a couple of days. |
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Hi Dead,
Do you think this is a good league starter? The gear for the low budget seems like it will take a bit to get together. Until the AG can get set up the clear seems pretty bad? Also, how are you triggering the frostbite ring? I couldn't find a way that we could trigger it unless I'm missing something. |
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" I agree, I hate the clear speed on that skill, however, I liked the boss dps it could pull off in the early game. I will try to make a room for absolution in my gear until I pass through the difficult phases of the early game. Then I will stick to my pure phys carrions. I expect some increase in jewel prices but cold irons might not be that expensive to go with. What are the 4 links of auto scouts? I might give them a try just to feel around them in early game clear. Trust your mind and strengthen your abilities!
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I don't know how you guys are feeling in League right now, but bro... it's a mass.
I was doing infinite Heist until that stage you can do no more. It was fine, but when I got maps, no rewards, no drops and even with more difficulty I wasn't getting rewarded for it. Maybe I'll quite this legue and it's not because the build. I'll give some days for the next patchs to see if they'll fix some stuffs and we could find more fun on it. About the build: 1 - Block is fine. I'm not dying easly. 2 - I'm felling a king of lacking of damage, but I guess its because low level gems. 4 - Zombies and gollens dying, especilly zombies. 5 - Impossible to buy Anima, I guess, after complete Atlas, I will do some white map (waterways) runs with mechanics like strongbox, essences and metamophs which doesnt scale maps to see some currences. I know with more time and better gems I could get better, but with no fun on it I dont know if i'll be pacient enough. Zuletzt bearbeitet von Yashal#0346 um 22.08.2022, 04:24:30
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Maybe this info keeps motivation up...
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/wuid4v/what_were_working_on/ |
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