3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

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crazypearce schrieb:
tested a bit and i'm not sure even CI is viable LOL. changing shapers touch takes off 45% of my ES. from 17k to just over 10k. makes stacking strength for CI kinda pointless especially as the baron isn't as good either. didn't realise how much the shapers touch change would actually effect it.

tried going full ES gear and basically removing all the uniques and instead of going for str on the tree, you go for ES nodes. you end up with around 12-14k ES which isn't bad. problem is that you lose a lot of zombie levels and total zombies. you take a lot more dps nodes so you end up with around 700-800k per zombie but you go from like 19 zombies to only 9. which to be honest, is going to be fucking awful for clear.

so with that in mind i personally don't think a CI build via str stacking is going to be that great at all. the value is so bad that you are just better off going for ES gear and ES nodes. and even that is pretty terrible.

so yeah, the build will work, but it just won't feel powerful. it will be good, but so are a lot of other builds too.

was excited to play it again as it was so good but i really don't think i will any more. sad to see something gutted so much. and the other build i wanted to play, bow bleed gladiator, sucks as a starter too cause of how they changed bow crafting. not sure what to play now with the new league so a lot of my hype for the new league has gone. which is a shame as i was looking forward to it



The Build is still going to be Powerful, just not Over OP Powerful.....I didn't even use skeletons last build and didn't even have Baron until very end game, but I didn't really use it, as I only had 425 strength, BUT I still did very well, and still made it to T16 maps without any issue... I only made it to level 89 though, as I didn't much time to play the 2nd half of the league... Build will be fine....

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Mentoya schrieb:


The Build is still going to be Powerful, just not Over OP Powerful.....I didn't even use skeletons last build and didn't even have Baron until very end game, but I didn't really use it, as I only had 425 strength, BUT I still did very well, and still made it to T16 maps without any issue... I only made it to level 89 though, as I didn't much time to play the 2nd half of the league... Build will be fine....



I mean this in the best way possible but based on your experience this league you are hardly qualified to make this statement. You missed the majority of end game. At 89, deaths mean hardly anything so you can basically die all you want. You can't have successfully completed many tier 16 maps or your level would be higher. Simply getting to tier 16 maps doesn't mean much.

I'm not saying the build isn't still good. The verdict is still out on that matter.

Simply put, your experience in the league doesn't give much weight to your statement that the build will be fine. Given your limited experience with the league/build, you might want to refrain from stating your assertions so matter-of-factly.
I am extremely inexperienced but I was looking at "Essence Glutton+Bone Offering" in place of Spirit Offering.

But honestly I don't know if it's worth it, I still would like to test it myself when I can login, but EG seems rather week compared to old Spirit offering, on top of losing one of the other Passives.

Also I don't know if it is a huge deal losing Spirit Offering, to me it is, since I was having trouble keeping the zombie alive in Tier 3 maps, as I said I am pretty much a noob, I only got to play the build for like 5 days, but my point is that it really seemed like I needed that gem to keep them alive.
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Elorathiel schrieb:

I mean this in the best way possible but based on your experience this league you are hardly qualified to make this statement. You missed the majority of end game. At 89, deaths mean hardly anything so you can basically die all you want. You can't have successfully completed many tier 16 maps or your level would be higher. Simply getting to tier 16 maps doesn't mean much.

I'm not saying the build isn't still good. The verdict is still out on that matter.


Simply put, your experience in the league doesn't give much weight to your statement that the build will be fine. Given your limited experience with the league/build, you might want to refrain from stating your assertions so matter-of-factly.




Sorry, but I never play a game to level 100, it's a waste of my time...

But as easily as I was able to wipe content on T16 and kill guardians without skellies or a Baron, it may have been a little bit harder and practice to get further ,but that's about it... The point being, is if it was that easy to run T16's without a Baron and skellies without dying very often, then I don't think pushing further would have been more different, maybe a few more deaths to learn the fight mechanics.

But yes, if you are trying to do this deathless, then I get your point....Then again, I never go into a build thinking or hoping I can run it deathless.

But I trust Brunowa though, and if he says this build is still OP after some testing that he did, then I believe him...
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For newely leveling couple of paths Im considering.
Going to Grave intentions at 8 passives, gives minions quite alot of survivability and halfway caps the elemental resistance.

Alternative 2 Lord of the dead through the arcanist domination at 7 passives. Well rounded

Alternative 3 Enduring Bond at 9 passives.

Alternative 4 Death Attunement at 13 passives.

Wich ones do you think will do the best?

Might be worth going death attunement if finding a Cluster Jewel very early.
Hello.

I have a question about the patch.

brunowa wrote at the "Feeding Frenzy" point.
... "Just link FF with a golem and we're good."...

Sorry, but I don´t understand this. How can I link FF to a golem?
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macbeast2019 schrieb:
Hello.

I have a question about the patch.

brunowa wrote at the "Feeding Frenzy" point.
... "Just link FF with a golem and we're good."...

Sorry, but I don´t understand this. How can I link FF to a golem?


The feeding frenzy boost is a buff on you. So your golem will give you the buff instead of your zombies. Feeding Frenzy in the zombie link isnt manditory.
Longtime thread lurker. Thank you to everyone that has contributed to the science of the undead.

I am starting a new yawb beginning next week so I'm going to have limited playtime and will find myself in standard until I get settled. That and I want to finish leveling my necro to 100.

For those of us staying in standard this league (dont hate) what items should we be investing in prior to 3.10?

Geofri's + Baron + Shaper's touch?

I love my saqawal setup but want to have as many legacy items for options depending on what you geniuses come up with for 3.10

Thanks again to all that have contributed to this epic thread.

Build is pretty versatile, I was just looking at the golem version of the build to compensate for loss of a few zombies. I've played a fire golem build several leagues ago, haven't tried carrion yet, but the fire golems cleared pretty darn good by themselves into late game.

But now with this build, Mix in golems, zombies, spectre which may be better now with more choices, animate guardian, and still have vaal skellies to pop still gotta be tough. Anyone look over what new spectres are available yet?

Ok guys. I defintely think Spirit Offering nerf may lead us to manually cast either Bone or Flesh Offering. No Cycloning so we can use bows....and



Three sockets for....curses, triggers, utility?

Even if we don't use an Ornate Quiver having a Quiver like this...is wow.





Or more ES and recharge...


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