[3.21] 🌿Ultimate Claw Poison Pathfinder - Untouchable Viper - Molten Strike update by FEL

Giving you more Damage vs. bosses with wither-stacks? yeah, really harsh nerf xD

Hi are you going to update this before 3.11?

Someone did the math. New corruption node hits your clear significantly compared to the old one and only starts to be better vs bosses at a very significant gear investment if you already had a lot of poison mult.

Anyways, balance manifesto is out and they just nerfed dual wield damage by 20% for no reason so lul, GGG balance team strikes again. I'm probably gonna leaguestart zombies now. That thread was a roller coaster. Way to nerf all melee builds.

Oh, and Vaal Molten Shell is getting nerfed too because apparently getting most of your armor from flasks to use VMS was busted. Dang, this build has to go back to the drawing board.

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There have been new additions to the passive skill tree providing power and utility, especially for melee characters, like the Tribal Fury

Is it a potential buff? (Or at least a neutral change)

Unclear where the new notable locates. If it's in the build path, you can potentially spec out to it and anoint Corruption. Otherwise, you don't lose it as an amulet anointment candidate.

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WolfieNa schrieb:

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There have been new additions to the passive skill tree providing power and utility, especially for melee characters, like the Tribal Fury

Is it a potential buff? (Or at least a neutral change)

Unclear where the new notable locates. If it's in the build path, you can potentially spec out to it and anoint Corruption. Otherwise, you don't lose it as an amulet anointment candidate.

No. It's near Iron Grip, strays too far from us. They're buffing the Duelist-Marauder area of the tree after all. They want to funnel everyone into playing 2h. So for dex-based melee I expect to see nothing but the flat nerfs.

Well, dual wield being nerfed might actually be a reason for this build to use a shield.
As i said before: the new broken faith actually looks very interesting for this build to me.
Also rare shields might have some benefits. A lot more life, and the potential to go - 15% mana reservation of socketed gems, which makes Enlighten obsolete and frees up a gem slot.
Might be worth looking into.

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Orangesilk schrieb:

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WolfieNa schrieb:

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There have been new additions to the passive skill tree providing power and utility, especially for melee characters, like the Tribal Fury

Is it a potential buff? (Or at least a neutral change)

Unclear where the new notable locates. If it's in the build path, you can potentially spec out to it and anoint Corruption. Otherwise, you don't lose it as an amulet anointment candidate.

No. It's near Iron Grip, strays too far from us. They're buffing the Duelist-Marauder area of the tree after all. They want to funnel everyone into playing 2h. So for dex-based melee I expect to see nothing but the flat nerfs.

I saw some people in the ladder go with shield rather than dual-wield for their poison strike builds. Perhaps, the new league is a good time to explore speccing out onto Dualist/Marauder regions to grab Tribal Fury and Soul of Steel while having Corruption as anointment at the same time.

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Corioliss schrieb:

Well, dual wield being nerfed might actually be a reason for this build to use a shield.
As i said before: the new broken faith actually looks very interesting for this build to me.
Also rare shields might have some benefits. A lot more life, and the potential to go - 15% mana reservation of socketed gems, which makes Enlighten obsolete and frees up a gem slot.
Might be worth looking into.

There was one guy I talked to few weeks ago that has done quite well with shield. Here is the link to his build if you want a reference. He told me that his build can be achieved with much less investment.

As I said in the other comment, it is a chance to explore new possibility. There is a chance that the new change is a blessing in disguise.

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WolfieNa schrieb:

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Corioliss schrieb:

Well, dual wield being nerfed might actually be a reason for this build to use a shield.
As i said before: the new broken faith actually looks very interesting for this build to me.
Also rare shields might have some benefits. A lot more life, and the potential to go - 15% mana reservation of socketed gems, which makes Enlighten obsolete and frees up a gem slot.
Might be worth looking into.

There was one guy I talked to few weeks ago that has done quite well with shield. Here is the link to his build if you want a reference. He told me that his build can be achieved with much less investment.

As I said in the other comment, it is a chance to explore new possibility. There is a chance that the new change is a blessing in disguise.

Dual Wield change is not game breaking since phys damage is not scaled anyway. It's a nerf but small one.

Vaal MS is nerfed but also there is a new OP armour keystone.

Dunno. At this point there are lots of changes in general. New crafts will be available so some power lies there which is yet to be seen.

I guess build will have to be reworked from ground up.

I don't have much faith in shields as they bring quite a damage loss.
That build you posted i don't get. Damage is really low not to mention sub 5 attacks/s.

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Orangesilk schrieb:

Oh, and Vaal Molten Shell is getting nerfed too because apparently getting most of your armor from flasks to use VMS was busted.

Well tbh for an iron reflexes character the change might not be tragic.

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While active, it also gives More armour, instead of a flat value of armour, multiplying your existing armour value rather than giving an effect that is less relevant to armour invested characters.

Reaching some 40k armor with flasks up and then having that multiplied should help against physical damage, so what it nerfs the most is being able to absorb huge elemental hits. On degens it never worked anyway.

I think what they wanted to nerf the most is the energy shield builds (again, what a surprise, just after glancing blows) that have no phys mitigation so were trying to patch it with naked granite (or rumi's) + vms.