[3.21] 🌿Ultimate Claw Poison Pathfinder - Untouchable Viper - Molten Strike update by FEL

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Werdna76 schrieb:

For me, the triple purity makes it playable. I started with seeing the Mathil build and didn't see this guide until I was already playing it. Then got frustrated with dying - maybe gear at the time, maybe me just not being good. :) But switching to a 3xPurity build made it really click for me. Feels good, feels like it's got the spirit of poison proliferation, and feels almost as tanky as my gladiator and way faster... I'm not sure what beats it. So I'm happy and looking to this thread for inspiration on fine-tuning, like the possible Rage substitute for faster attacks. It's all good stuff. Everyone has their own play-style. Mine may just be too face-tanky for most builds as shown.

I believe you, ill test it definitely to see how it goes. Didn't mean anything bad, whatever works for you is good ofc :)
I just thought if player is not feeling it, no need to get frustrated if something like you said is not clicking or requires totally different play style than someone likes.

Will work on that idea to see what can i pull out of it. Best thing would be to get them to 80% res with gem lvls while relaxing the rest of the gear with resistances and getting more dps.

Awakener gloves might be the right choice, we'll see.

Ty anyway for the input. This build evolved in valuable increments thru leagues tnx to players feedback and I intend to continue to work like that. :)

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Destructodave schrieb:

Its just weird you are so mad,

uh...wot now? Slow down man, you're reaching. Just putting down my thoughts. 15 tries with 4 socket resonators till a good one hit is not cheap. Feel free to rebutal but I aint mad. That's very...troll-ish of you.

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DamageIncorporated schrieb:

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Destructodave schrieb:

Its just weird you are so mad,

uh...wot now? Slow down man, you're reaching. Just putting down my thoughts. 15 tries with 4 socket resonators till a good one hit is not cheap. Feel free to rebutal but I aint mad. That's very...troll-ish of you.

When the claw you are shooting for is 7+ exalt, that is cheap. And, again, that was weeks ago, near beginning of the league. That same claw, was 11ex. So 15 rolls for an 11ex claw at the time of that post, was ultra cheap. It was either that or use Wasp Nests. Because people were completely gouging prices on claws, which is why it was so profitable to just craft and resell all the mediocre ones.

If you sold that claw, you would be up what? 4-5 exalt? Then you craft another. If it rolls anything decent, its another 2-7 exalt sell, even now. Rinse repeat, until you are tired of crafting claws. Now go back in time where those were not 2-7 exalt sells, but 6-10. And they would hit in the first 2-6 rolls at times. Never took more than 12.

Anyways this is a pointless argument. Your claw is 100% proof its better to craft. I made a ton of money crafting claws this league, I got tired of it, figured Id help other people at the time of the post to go for theirs, and make really good currency at the same time.

Hell, there may even still be good currency in that, but grabbing 4 fossils is a serious hassle, compared to other crafting things now you can just do with 1 fossil.

Are you gonna craft another? I'd be interested to hear the amount of crafts you spend on it. Or, the amount of crafts you spend before you get something like 60%/chaos/etc. Because those were selling at that time.

Anyways, I've argued about a 2 week old post long enough. I made a TON of currency doing that, and figured I'd spread the wealth. I didnt think I'd have to defend my post 2-3 weeks later. That was a post for that specific instance in time; and next league, early in the league, that is 100% an easy way to make money.

Since I run double Low Tolerance and Unspeakable Gifts, I decided to give Viper Strike a try without splash; I have been using Pestilent for awhile and since I got that jewel setup.

The clear is quite good. Its a lot like Pestilent, but you do way more single target to the hard stuff if you get a Kosis or some Legion mobs/etc., or even a boss, and you dont have to swap gems.

Its not bad at all. A lot of what I thought Pestilent was doing, was really just my Cluster Jewel setup, because stuff dies about the same.

Here's 18-20 Simulacrum with just Viper. No call, Splash, just Low Tolerance and Unspeakable Gifts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeWUNJumOQs

I may get 5 rewards with Pestilent. I cant remember. I stopped looking at that and just do them.

A little update on the rage support for Whirling blades thing here:

With my normal gear I get about 15-25 Rage stacks on average until I reach the map Boss. That's 20% increased damage, 10% attack speed and 4% movement speed on average. Not a whole lot, but better than nothing.

That is with my normal playstyle of just whirling through mobs and tapping them once. One PS is way enough to kill any rare mob for me at this point.

As previously stated, on 100% Delirium Maps it is easily possible to reach 50 Rage stacks for me, at this point the damage increase really becomes noticable, and the movementspeed is some nice added bonus.

To test this further I replaced my rare claws with wasps nests for a few maps and took out my watcher's eye and Chaos Multi Amulet to lower my damage a bit.

At this point even in normal T16 maps I do reach 40+ Rage stacks consistently, without focussing on them at all. Again: at this point the damage increase is actually very noticable.

As I thought, there is pretty much no impact of Rage on Bossfights apart from uber elder though. Whirling through the boss 50 times to stack it up is of course not worth it, and the 1-5 stacks you get naturally (through positioning or proccing Fortify) are pretty much negligable.

Overall this is not a huge gamechanger, but a nice little added bonus, and I definitely recommend it.

Hello guys!
Finished storyline and loving the build so much, but it's definitely the ugliest charcater I've ever played, just look at this mofo daaaamn

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RockyScream schrieb:

Hello guys!
Finished storyline and loving the build so much, but it's definitely the ugliest charcater I've ever played, just look at this mofo daaaamn

hahahaha looks about right xD

So i tested and it works perfectly

1) Buy intuitive Leap and put near Golems blood
2) Spend only three passive skill points to take ADAMANT, Cloth and Chain and Dirty Teqnique.
3)Open a map and see what is your armor while doing it......75+

Next build from you that I am so much enjoying :D there is only one thing thats happening to me every 2-3s. Even using whirling blades 1 time cause me 10ms drop. 2-3 cast in 2s is ms going from 35 to 70 and desync :X

Ok guys. I went back to Pestilent after trying out Viper with just the 600% low tolerance prolif. It was ok, but you just dont clear big areas the same as Pestilent. I was just wrong. I was on a streak of nothing but Simulacrums and Promenade-type maps, and of course just prolif feels good in there. Felt exactly the same. Even in blight encounters. But once you jump into a wide-open Summit, you miss that extra clear.

But on another note to help some people if they are feeling squishy.

I mentioned earlier in the post one of my small cluster jewels is Enduring Composure. Its a small jewel, gives you an Endurance charge every second if you have been hit recently. I been using it awhile, but just it by itself. Its great on its on. But, if you use a CWDT/Immortal Call, it will last 3 seconds, but you will gain those 3 endurance charges back during the 3 seconds of Immortal Call. You basically get call for nothing. You will have a 3 second Immortal Call, take 75% less phys/30% less ele during the 3 seconds and still run around with 3 endurance charges all the time, and gain them back immediately after call consumes them, because you have been hit recently.

Its not some world breaking idea or anything(Jugg could do it forever, but now other classes can thanks to clusters), but if you are feeling squishy, I would throw this setup in there for a bit. Its good for the lazy people. I run this setup and Molten Shell on mouse 1(because it will auto cast it for you as you run around; it doesnt have a cast time), because I dont like mashing a ton of buttons.

On a related note, heres a A8 Viper Strike Sirius Kill and Wave 19-20 Pestilent Simulacrum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CZAnaCG0CE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qr86X4asjc