[3.20] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

In fact, i was looking at Calcs Tab, and the Trinity 17% penetration is not show in damage calculations, but, it gives 100k+ damage over Hypothermia, that has the same 30% more damage! So, i think its counting on final value

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whiterockxx schrieb:

In fact, i was looking at Calcs Tab, and the Trinity 17% penetration is not show in damage calculations, but, it gives 100k+ damage over Hypothermia, that has the same 30% more damage! So, i think its counting on final value

It is there. You probably have wrong Icestorm selected in the Calcs -> View Skill Details -> Socket Group -menu.

Also this all is comparing only raw damage output. CtF+Trinity needs Flammability as 3rd curse when other options can get little more defence from Enfeeble.

@whiterockxx -- I don't understand why you are using arcane surge linked to vortex. Per its gem text, it gives More damage only to spells LINKED to it. So you're losing out on 20% more spell damage.

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Graiaule schrieb:

@whiterockxx -- I don't understand why you are using arcane surge linked to vortex. Per its gem text, it gives More damage only to spells LINKED to it. So you're losing out on 20% more spell damage.

Arcane Surge lvl 21/20 has 2 lines about more damage:

1 - Arcane surge grants 20% More Spell Damage. This damage is granted to all spells since you keep the Arcane Surge buff expending 461 mana every 4 seconds.

2 - Supported skills deal 20% more spell damage. This damage is only applied to linked spell.

Level 21/20 Arcane surge gives alone 40% more damage. But if you use it linked to other skill elsewhere like vortex, you still can have the 1st line 20% to all spells.

You can change it on staff, using any support that gives more than 20% and it will be a gain in damage by the end

Just keep in mind to keep spamming vortex, to keep Arcane Surge buff up all time.

I use a lvl 14 divergent arcane surge that has 6 seconds duration and gives 17% more damage to all spells.

@whiterockxx: awakened controlled destruction would seem to be the gem to replace arcane surge with except I don't think PoB models the % uptime of elemental overload properly. Last time I tried CD, I rarely saw the EO icon, if I recall correctly.

Awakened CD also gives unnerve, which means we can pick a different searing exarch modifier for gloves.

The only other alternative appears to be hypothermia, which gives my char only about a 8% dps gain.

Let's remember that Vortex on 4 Link do a nice damage too..

As the video below shows, you can clear a T16 map just using a 4-link vortex!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxd4zFPPUFo

This damage cannot be denied... as a boost clearing maps or even on bosses!

Awakened Controlled destroction is not an option for Icestorm link, because its completly deny Elemental Overload Proc...

Great Build, absolutely loving it! Very long thread, so please point me to the right place if this discussion has already played out.

Alternate ways to spread the curses: I've been playing this with Vortex-Bonechill-Hextouch-3 curses. This allows me to hit what I want, when I want with all 3 curses. With all the INT stacked dmg, it's still deadly by itself for normal pack clearing.

I just found that having the curses applied only based off CWDT was clunky for how fast I like to move.

It also free's up a few more skill slots for whatever you like (I like running both Frostblink and FlameDash with Culling. /shrug.

@Dhimmok for bosses with phase like this vortex + curses could be a valid option, but keep in mind how Bonechill works.

It says:
"Enemies Chilled by Supported Skills have Cold Damage taken increased by Chill Effect;
Enemies in Chilling Areas from Supported Skills have Cold Damage taken increased by Chill Effect."

Every 1% of chill applied on monster, make Icestorm do +1% damage its go from 1 to 30%!

Raise vortex damage/chill effect greatly increases the overall damage.

I'm trying to make a way to cast the curses directly on CwDT to set it on 4L and set a 6L vortex on chest, but ther is no unreserverd mana enought to do it for now. But i'm working on this idea!

Right on. Yeah, definitely a dmg downer. Not enough of one to keep me from doing middling mod'd T16's. Haven't pushed into the end-game maps yet. Will let you know if it works out (or if I crash and burn and revert to the 4L Vortex + CWDT curse spread)!

Thanks!

Hello.

This thread is looking so massive.
So ive decided to ask here.
Why do we use scion or whitch as a classes?
I was thinking about something like inquisitor.

Looks to me that ignore ele res is a lot better than trying to penetrate or low it.
Also was thinking about secrets of suffering.
Isnt using 12 passive ilvl84 clusters better for any sort of stacking?

Sorry to ask about assendacy. I am assuming there were a lot of the same questions.

Was wondering if you have a giga investment tree.
Like 100 global defence chest and mageblood(no int increased belt but mb gives insane quality of life and utility) or it is just worse cause we use some unique flasks?
Thank you.

Regards.