[3.9] Pure Phys Skeletons & Friends Necromancer — Beginner/SSF/Budget Build

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Rebur schrieb:
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corranosgor schrieb:
Can Someone shortly explain the impale stuff to me?

Is it enough If i only Change the skeleton 6L for impale?
Or do i need the Generosity and Dread Banner stuff?

I would Not Like to Reserve Mana because of MoM and im Not Sure how effektiv the Impale stuff is against the OG Setup because i'm running an awakend melee Splash.


Impale is very good DPS and if a build can fit in in they really need to since it such a big increase. Also as a aside most people drop Feeding Frenzy to use Impale.

Now Dread Banner plus Generosity increase it even more. On my PoB I have Total Impale DPS of 730,951.8 if I drop Dread Banner it drops to 575,332.6. So a pretty big drop.

Now as for Mana reserved I feel it is negligible. My total Mana is 2,319. Dread Banner at Level 20 with 20% Quality reserves 11% of my mana which drops it down to 2,063.

So for 256 mana I get a increase of DPS of 155,619.2 which I think is totally worth it.

The problem comes in with the Pride Aura. I was using it for a little bit but had to drop MoM and the mana nodes to make it work which at my gear point isn't worth. If I had a AG with Kingmaker and a Glorious Vanity of Doryani and at least 5500 Health I would drop MoM for Pride because it's even more Damage on top but that is expensive.


Wouldn't suggest that.You will be getting hit too hard without that MoM.

Just my personal approach because I tried like everything. Of course personal touch and game play is always a factor but dropping MoM will hit your surv pretty bad.

Personally if you want slower casts of desecrate / flame dash then dropping a link for generosity is pretty good.
Never invite Vorana, Last To Fall at a beer party.
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Rebur schrieb:
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corranosgor schrieb:
Can Someone shortly explain the impale stuff to me?

Is it enough If i only Change the skeleton 6L for impale?
Or do i need the Generosity and Dread Banner stuff?

I would Not Like to Reserve Mana because of MoM and im Not Sure how effektiv the Impale stuff is against the OG Setup because i'm running an awakend melee Splash.


Impale is very good DPS and if a build can fit in in they really need to since it such a big increase. Also as a aside most people drop Feeding Frenzy to use Impale.

Now Dread Banner plus Generosity increase it even more. On my PoB I have Total Impale DPS of 730,951.8 if I drop Dread Banner it drops to 575,332.6. So a pretty big drop.

Now as for Mana reserved I feel it is negligible. My total Mana is 2,319. Dread Banner at Level 20 with 20% Quality reserves 11% of my mana which drops it down to 2,063.

So for 256 mana I get a increase of DPS of 155,619.2 which I think is totally worth it.

The problem comes in with the Pride Aura. I was using it for a little bit but had to drop MoM and the mana nodes to make it work which at my gear point isn't worth. If I had a AG with Kingmaker and a Glorious Vanity of Doryani and at least 5500 Health I would drop MoM for Pride because it's even more Damage on top but that is expensive.


For Pride you can throw it in a Essence Worm ring provided you're confident with the life/resists you have with one less ring.

Still wondering whether to drop Brutality in favor of Ruthless, anyone got an opinion/experience with that ?
Can someone take a look at my setup ?

I do not know why but my Skelly damage seems quite low. I do not really know why, but I see people droping Sirus AW8 way faster than me on AW5.

Currently the build as I structured it is mostly for having zombies taunt everything so I don't get hit , I tested with AG but it seems I get one shotted too frequently , and I do not really know why.

I have max rez even chaos rez and still...

How much damage would AG bring to my Skellis to make it worth dying here and there ?

P.S , I am not really an expert in using POB. I use it like everyone else, to drop a build and see some stats. So knowing this my POB damage might mislead me, if someone can check. Last time in POB my skellies had 500k dps each and I do not know were people are getting 800k-1mil.
Never invite Vorana, Last To Fall at a beer party.
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Rebur schrieb:


Impale is very good DPS and if a build can fit in in they really need to since it such a big increase. Also as a aside most people drop Feeding Frenzy to use Impale.

Now Dread Banner plus Generosity increase it even more. On my PoB I have Total Impale DPS of 730,951.8 if I drop Dread Banner it drops to 575,332.6. So a pretty big drop.



So what gem changes are you making? FF for Impale I get -- what are you removing to put Dread Banner + Generosity?

Current gear below at 91 (where I seem stuck right now):



Also have To Dust and two other jewels (can't figure out how to link things in Passive Tree :) )
Zuletzt bearbeitet von shinino#3448 um 14.01.2020, 01:35:33
Question regarding Vaal summon skeletons and impale, I read earlier in the thread that impale does not work for Vaal summon skeletons, does that mean if I want to use vaal summon skeletons I need to have 2x summon skeletons gems (1x vaal summons and 1x normal summon skeletons in my 6link) ? or Can I just have 1x vaal summon skeletons gem and the impale will support the normal skeletons I summon but it wont affect the vaal part when I summon the 40 army ?

Hope my question makes sense, I kinda confused myself reading over it lol
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Vendetta schrieb:
Can someone take a look at my setup ?

I do not know why but my Skelly damage seems quite low. I do not really know why, but I see people droping Sirus AW8 way faster than me on AW5.

Currently the build as I structured it is mostly for having zombies taunt everything so I don't get hit , I tested with AG but it seems I get one shotted too frequently , and I do not really know why.

I have max rez even chaos rez and still...

How much damage would AG bring to my Skellis to make it worth dying here and there ?

P.S , I am not really an expert in using POB. I use it like everyone else, to drop a build and see some stats. So knowing this my POB damage might mislead me, if someone can check. Last time in POB my skellies had 500k dps each and I do not know were people are getting 800k-1mil.



Hmm, I can let others go into more details but the Feeding Frenzy instead of Multistrike (or Melee Splash for clearing) in your 6L is odd. I imported your character in POB and seems like you'd get like a 200k dps boost if you replace that with Multistrike. Everything else looked ok at first glance.

Not an expert in POB either but if I have everything set up correctly you'd be at 700k something per skelly with Multistrike and 900k ish if you add AG on top.
Zuletzt bearbeitet von Supermax64#0440 um 14.01.2020, 02:45:17
Second Awakener 8 kill and I become rich! Holy!!!



This owuld obviously be a massive single target DPS increase, but I wanna sell it to fix all my bad gear (I haven't swapped a single piece other than the amulet and shield) Im so happy!!
Zuletzt bearbeitet von idkwat#6167 um 14.01.2020, 02:47:13
Hello guys,

This is my 3rd post and I still can't figure it out why my damage is so low.

I switched to impale but it doesn't seem to increase.

All help is much appreciated

POB damage with correct config: https://imgur.com/a/2ybaQLG

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idkwat schrieb:
Second Awakener 8 kill and I become rich! Holy!!!



This owuld obviously be a massive single target DPS increase, but I wanna sell it to fix all my bad gear (I haven't swapped a single piece other than the amulet and shield) Im so happy!!


Holy smokes. That's over 50ex. LOL and congrats!!

I would sell it too. Dragomorov made a post a while back (page 147) comparing the different awakened gems - Melee Physical Damage is the one with the largest dps increase for us. And way cheaper.
Zuletzt bearbeitet von varmemester#3475 um 14.01.2020, 03:17:24
Anyone able to do HoTG with this build? I find that the minions die too much.

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