[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

Heya and thanks for awesome guide :P. Running TS Raider guide and im at level 91 and doing great but i was wondering where should i head next in skilltree. Should i go for aspect of eagle or just go for jewel slots?
Would appreciate if someone can help me figure out which items I should upgrade/go for first. My skilltree is about the same as the final skilltree on TS raider, just lacking couple elemental dmg nodes and +1 frenzy charge. My hp is currently ~3,7k and TS tooltip dmg 21k with hatred/HoI/golem
Sup Raiders, looking on some tips/pointers on my current build at the moment--gear improvements, passive points, etc. My goal is to solo my first uber run soon:

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/johnman025/characters

HP is currently at 4.2k (read somewhere I need at least 4.5)

TS dps with 7 frenzy stacks is around 37k (edit: TS in-game tooltip)
Blast Rain dps with same stacks is around 32k I believe

Much appreciated for any advice!
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Hi. How immortal call should prevent reflect spikes if we're going for full elemental conversion?
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balyasmax schrieb:
Hi. How immortal call should prevent reflect spikes if we're going for full elemental conversion?


From my experience it does not, its not enough. Personally i found a temporary fix for my situation, replaced Signal Fire with Drillneck

Way less Phys to Ele convert so i don't get tons of reflect back, i lose ~20% DPS in stats but Drillneck provides 50% bonus dmg on target you pierce (something which is not considered in stats) so in the end i tend to do more damage

With less reflect taken Immortal Call is able to keep up instead of getting one shot/deleted.

Or i mean if you have a good Harbinger and lots of Evasion (Queen of the Forest ?) you will be able to dodge some attacks here and there but... its rng.
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Phoenix4th schrieb:
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balyasmax schrieb:
Hi. How immortal call should prevent reflect spikes if we're going for full elemental conversion?


From my experience it does not, its not enough. Personally i found a temporary fix for my situation, replaced Signal Fire with Drillneck

Way less Phys to Ele convert so i don't get tons of reflect back, i lose ~20% DPS in stats but Drillneck provides 50% bonus dmg on target you pierce (something which is not considered in stats) so in the end i tend to do more damage

With less reflect taken Immortal Call is able to keep up instead of getting one shot/deleted.

Or i mean if you have a good Harbinger and lots of Evasion (Queen of the Forest ?) you will be able to dodge some attacks here and there but... its rng.

I mean that immortal call making the character invulnerable to physical damage. But we're going for full elemental conversion. So immortal call don't work with reflect.
Hi ya'll!

I think I'm having some trouble with my build. It doesn't seem like I'm clearing maps as well as I should and I'm struggling a bit with some more powerful bosses. Is there anything I'm doing wrong or should improve? I prefer to use LA over TS.
I'm doing pretty good with this char(u can see the build/items from my profil), but i'm in the middle of another crisis lol.

I'm using the kaom heart with only tornado shot, but i begin to thinking to change it with a perfect form!
What do you think? With the perfect form i can use barrage without change the gem all the time and i will boost my evasion/dodge and gain the free-aura of course, but i don't know... the 500 life is huge :/ .
And most important the kaom seems to warrior-ish for me, i want to be a ranger with a ranger gear lol!
But that life... ç_ç


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Valraineea schrieb:
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juerk schrieb:
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Valraineea schrieb:
Could anyone take a look at my build (especially skill-tree) to see if there's something I'm doing wrong?

I can't for the life of me see how this build could ever be able to beat shaper, because I die to everything really fast, so I pretty much have to resort to killing them before they kill me and kiting.

I can't do certain map bosses that have physical melee damage, because they just run up to me and two-shot me. My life leech is ABYSMALLY bad vs single targets, too, and I mostly resort to warlord's mark to heal myself back up because I run out of life flasks almost every time.


Gear isn't even that bad, but ofc not shaper-viable for now.
Things to improve:

your bow looks good, but isn't. Benchmark to beat Death's Opus/Lioneye's glare for barrage dps is around 365-370 pdps and 8.5 crit [mastercrafted 22%] on my gear if I substituted Drillneck + 1 for Signalfire +1, and went the PTL route. You don't have all the extra proj, so..I'd do a PoB comparison.

Idk if it's worth the time messing around with your bow at all (see above) but you can potentially 5l it.

Then (the more important part): -Get Chin sol, grab "point blank" keystone, grab the leech (duelist leech if you are broke, otherwise lioneye's fall + claw nodes. You are lacking crit multi anyways).
-Put tornado shot in your 5l. You can decide if you want it in your chin sol, your current bow, lioneye's glare, death's opus or whatever. TS does not need a 6l. EDIT: make sure you use chin sol while barraging. For AoE chin sol is meh, just weaponswap out of it.

-Put barrage in a 6l with something like Barrage-PTL-WED-EleF-SP-x (dmg on full life/maim/..)
consider GMP instead of SP as long as you don't have a dying sun/extra proj, it's more dmg in that case.

-Facetank the bosses but dodge the telegraphed oneshotty attacks.

Congratulations, you quadrupled your dmg and can kill bosses now.


Huh, so the original neversink build is not up to date at all (even though it's for 3.0)? This seems to deviate heavily from what Build 1 of the guide tells me to do, so that kind of sucks.

So I should replace my current bow with a good Lioneye's glare, my weaponswap should be Chin sol for bosses. I assume I'll take 4 points off of the Bow circle (heavy draw), and 1 point from "sniper"? Where else should I take points off to get the jewel slot + soul raker?

It really sucks that I can't seem to trust anything the build says. Should I ditch some gems from my tornado link, too? Like swap FA for pierce or something? I'm pretty new to the game so I don't know how to adapt, I just follow what guides tell me to do. x.x


Yeah as Bi0niX pointed out, FA aren't great as a link. The reason is diminishing returns (FA give you increased AS and as a raider you already get a TON of it. Even as pathfinder/raider FA is mediocre at best.

As for following guides..there are bunch of guides around there, some better than this one, some worse. Don't expect the tree + item choices to be always minmaxed, BiS or realistic. And certainly don't expect them to be tailored to YOUR setup. Just take them as they are - guidelines. Howeve, there are often minor things you can learn/pick up from them.

As for this, OP has clearly an idea what he is doing, since he has been playing a doomfletch build with tempest binding. However he has not covered all options due to time resctrictions/vast build variety for bows and is not committing as much time to it compared to the lootfilter stuff (which isn't the worst thing tbh.)

Yeah the %phys dmg branch in the bow circle is pretty lackluster. The %phys %attackspeed branch is worth it though. Sniper is ok-ish but something you can easily get rid of. Chin Sol for bosses, yes.

@jorckeb: Sell the lion's roar! It doesn't give you any dmg, and you already should have king of the hill for knockback. Roll some form of an instant recovery on your life flask, quality up your flasks and replace the lion's roar with something else. Maybe wise oak for perfect form+some dmg+utility or a stibnite for defence. Later you can fit dying sun or ToH there (or vinktars or w/e).
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CultOfPersonality schrieb:
So I just hit 69/70.. running maps and still can't level... end up dying. I have 2500 hp and capped resists.. and around 13k dps with Tornado Shot and a good Harbinger Bow.. any suggestions?









Any advice? Replace? Suggestions? Trying to get Kaoms but I'm not even half way to the cost.

What's a glaring hole I need to fix? I can get any HP body for like +150 but I don't even think that'll put me at 3000. Even with a Kaoms I don't see it.











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