[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

I think the choice of phasing over onslaught is that against bosses, it's easy to have phasing (thanks to frenzy charges/quartz infusion) whereas onslaught is harder/impossible to get without specific gear (Perseverance belt imo is the most reliable).
Against non-bosses, clear speed is enough.

Yeah, you're right, yet I'm still not really convinced.
Anyway, you guys also have problems with maps on your level? I can barely survive those for 72lvl and I'm already level 74, all resistances capped and I also refunded 4 points and put them into Phase acrobatics, it helped a lot especially with Atziri's Step but it's still not always enough, maybe that's because I don't have CWDT+IC yet.
My tornado dmg is also kinda meh, 10k DPS with 6 frenzy and 3 power charges, not sure if that's good [lionseye's glare 4-link, hatred and HoI]

Well I got lvl 79 with this "build" somehow and must say that playing it is just a misery, I'm sorry for spending time on it, never played such unbalanced and squishy build before. Will recommend it to noone for sure. This thread has more than 900 pages and ts cant even update it normally with pictures and video clips. And as it was written previously skill tree is just a disaster. Dislike for sure. The only fact it became so popular is because of the filter, i dont have any other ideas

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Well I got lvl 79 with this "build" somehow and must say that playing it is just a misery, I'm sorry for spending time on it, never played such unbalanced and squishy build before. Will recommend it to noone for sure. This thread has more than 900 pages and ts cant even update it normally with pictures and video clips. And as it was written previously skill tree is just a disaster. Dislike for sure. The only fact it became so popular is because of the filter, i dont have any other ideas

I feel the same way... It's sad because I'm new to the game and I wanted a solid build, but this feels rushed and inconsistent. I'm level 74 but I already feel the problems that I hadn't felt before with other builds, for example PewPewPew Firestorm.
I don't recommend this guide for anyone. I only followed this build because of the "fame" of NeverSink because of the Loot filter. I suppose that was stupid by my part.

Just hit 78 and I'm feeling the wall hitting pretty dang hard, tbh.

Curious if I should just move onto a new char or maybe see if I can switch this acc over to something else? IDK D:

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jeffarese schrieb:

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Well I got lvl 79 with this "build" somehow and must say that playing it is just a misery, I'm sorry for spending time on it, never played such unbalanced and squishy build before. Will recommend it to noone for sure. This thread has more than 900 pages and ts cant even update it normally with pictures and video clips. And as it was written previously skill tree is just a disaster. Dislike for sure. The only fact it became so popular is because of the filter, i dont have any other ideas

I feel the same way... It's sad because I'm new to the game and I wanted a solid build, but this feels rushed and inconsistent. I'm level 74 but I already feel the problems that I hadn't felt before with other builds, for example PewPewPew Firestorm.
I don't recommend this guide for anyone. I only followed this build because of the "fame" of NeverSink because of the Loot filter. I suppose that was stupid by my part.

Well, honestly, TS/LA-barrage builds are rather expensive and not that easy to level with. With the Boss HP changes, the single target is a bit of a problem (with really bad gear). However there are ways around that (knowing when to buy certain items, not focusing too much on boss killing). The AoE-clear should be fine even with a basic 5l.

There are probably better builds, if you cap the total investment at 1ex or so - but those don't offer the infinite scaling potential TS/barrage does.

Considering the guide..I don't agree with a LOT of item suggestions (Helmet, Gloves, Bow) and am not sure about the skill tree either. Starkonja's or a rare helmet with 90+ life and +1 barrage enchant are way better than Rat's nest for survivability. Same for gripped gloves / thunderfist vs maligaro's. Nothing new, really...
I'd suggest, you take a quick look at some other bow guides and pick the best package.

As for me, I've taken the lazy route with a "traditional" leaguestarter. Got some of the items I need for the switch/releveling, still missing the helm enchant + a second bow though (+ Kaom's but Kaom's can wait for now).

It s probably a dumb question ^^
But could TS go for the BUILD 2 ( ELE-EYE/ELE-ASS LA/BARRAGE SCION) instead of lightning arrow ?

Thx

The thing people seem to not understand is that there is a Huge message at the beginning stating that the guide is being updated. The League hasnt even been out for 2 weeks yet and everyone is going nuts over this. Neversink has a life and also plays this game as well. As for survivability, There's a post that even stats "Focus on defense". If you're going for balls out damage over your hp/res, no crap you're gonna get one shot. You're a BOW character. You shouldnt be facetanking anything. And the build is built around being mobile. We have CWDT/Eva/Acrobatics for those moment when we cant escape. The layered defense is a last resort. Your PLAYSTYLE is the first. I'm 83 now as the scion and I can say with complete certainty that I only die when "I" do something stupid. The build also states that you can ADAPT it. Need more HP? Take more nodes. If you have to choose between that 400dps bow that keeps you at 4k hp or gear that caps your res and throws you over 6k....Choose the damn gear. A dead DPS does no DPS. Bosses are stronger as well. They got hp buffed so this build isn't going to kill bosses as fast as it used to. And that's the same for ALL builds until you start dumping tons of EX into it. It's over 900 posts and 850+ are complaining/asking questions that have been answered into the ground.

/rant

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UncleZebuuu schrieb:

It s probably a dumb question ^^
But could TS go for the BUILD 2 ( ELE-EYE/ELE-ASS LA/BARRAGE SCION) instead of lightning arrow ?

Thx

I'm running it like that now with phys/light and signal fire. Works well. Little less aoe dps since it only pierces once atm, but i can freefire kill rares a lot faster.

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Colanth schrieb:

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UncleZebuuu schrieb:

It s probably a dumb question ^^
But could TS go for the BUILD 2 ( ELE-EYE/ELE-ASS LA/BARRAGE SCION) instead of lightning arrow ?

Thx

I'm running it like that now with phys/light and signal fire. Works well. Little less aoe dps since it only pierces once atm, but i can freefire kill rares a lot faster.

Thx will try it then
Was thinking about the signal fire too