[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

Im choosing between two bows, and i don't know how much difference added chaos damage would make

One have 311,4 pdps (1,2attcks per second)
Other one have 314,37 pdps (1,29 attacks per seconds - so more mana) AND added 66-122 chaos damage.
Both have same crit chance(8,6). Is added chaos worth paying ~ 33% more, or damage incrase would be negligible.

Also i have lioney's glare with ~ 330 pdps atm, will 310, 8,6 crit chance bow a good upgrade over this lioneys?

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Jazzday2 schrieb:

Im choosing between two bows, and i don't know how much difference added chaos damage would make

One have 311,4 pdps (1,2attcks per second)
Other one have 314,37 pdps (1,29 attacks per seconds - so more mana) AND added 66-122 chaos damage.
Both have same crit chance(8,6). Is added chaos worth paying ~ 33% more, or damage incrase would be negligible.

Also i have lioney's glare with ~ 330 pdps atm, will 310, 8,6 crit chance bow a good upgrade over this lioneys?

For proper bow build, Lioneye with 5% base crit will be equivalent to bow with same DPS but 6-6.5% base crit chance (and 2 high accuracy rolls on gear). Bow with 8%+ crit chance and 300+ DPS easily out-performs Lioneye.

I'd chosen bow with Chaos damage, even if had to pay more. Elemental or Chaos DPS on bow worth around 3-4 times less than physical, but still, 121 chaos DPS (in your case) translates to 40 physical, around 12% more, which isnt negligible i think. It also is reflect-proof :).

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Krish25 schrieb:

Hey guys, If you have problems with intelligence or strength i have the perfect solution.

All you need is a Fertile Mind Crimson jewel (If you need INT) or
Inertia Crimson Jewel (If you need STR)

After that just place the jewel in this slot - http://pasteboard.co/2sVI8HQ3.png

By doing this you will get 60 INT from tree and 22 from the jewel, total 82 INT, Enjoy! :D

Helmet like this works just fine.
Sadly it isn't a Evasion base, was a pain in the ass to get those colours lol.

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Jazzday2 schrieb:

Im choosing between two bows, and i don't know how much difference added chaos damage would make

One have 311,4 pdps (1,2attcks per second)
Other one have 314,37 pdps (1,29 attacks per seconds - so more mana) AND added 66-122 chaos damage.
Both have same crit chance(8,6). Is added chaos worth paying ~ 33% more, or damage incrase would be negligible.

Also i have lioney's glare with ~ 330 pdps atm, will 310, 8,6 crit chance bow a good upgrade over this lioneys?

Thing is, chaos damage doesn't scale with anything in this build. So let's say the non-chaos one gives you 15k dps, the one with chaos only gives 15.1kdps. That's such a small percentage it doesn't make it worth the extra 33% cost. 100 extra chaos damage is nothing in end-game content where monsters have >10k health.

I'd pick the cheaper one any day.

What gems are you guys using? It seems I'm lacking little bit of slots.
Bow: Single target DPS
Chest: Tornado shot
Gloves: CWDT, Imortal call, Enfeeble, Increased duration
Helm: Herald of ash, Hatred, Summon ice golem, Blink arrow
Boots: Vaal haste, increased duration, blood rage, [free slot]

With this setup I have no place for SA curse combo. Enduring cry would be really useful too.

So this just dropped on my MF Flame totem Templar in a Zana map. Can I basically just follow neversink's guide and pop in a windripper? Haven't played a lot of bow characters before. I did divine/bless/jew/fuse it but ran out of blessed orbs. Also, already have a 6 link chest I could use in a pinch.

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crzytimes schrieb:

So this just dropped on my MF Flame totem Templar in a Zana map. Can I basically just follow neversink's guide and pop in a windripper? Haven't played a lot of bow characters before. I did divine/bless/jew/fuse it but ran out of blessed orbs. Also, already have a 6 link chest I could use in a pinch.

No, this guide is for a physical bow. There's plenty of information out there for Windripper, though.
Grats on the sweet drop.

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Sotto_voce schrieb:

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crzytimes schrieb:

So this just dropped on my MF Flame totem Templar in a Zana map. Can I basically just follow neversink's guide and pop in a windripper? Haven't played a lot of bow characters before. I did divine/bless/jew/fuse it but ran out of blessed orbs. Also, already have a 6 link chest I could use in a pinch.

No, this guide is for a physical bow. There's plenty of information out there for Windripper, though.
Grats on the sweet drop.

Ofc he can. I think NeverSinks 3th post is soley about Windripper.

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JuztBe schrieb:

What gems are you guys using? It seems I'm lacking little bit of slots.
Bow: Single target DPS
Chest: Tornado shot
Gloves: CWDT, Imortal call, Enfeeble, Increased duration
Helm: Herald of ash, Hatred, Summon ice golem, Blink arrow
Boots: Vaal haste, increased duration, blood rage, [free slot]

With this setup I have no place for SA curse combo. Enduring cry would be really useful too.

When using TS, you don't need a seperate single target skill for anything other than Atziri. TS is just perfect for single target, because the secundary arrows can hit the same target multiple times. Just like before 2.0.

So you can set up a 5L or 6L curse setup in your bow. This is the setup I'm using:
Bow: Frenzy - GMP - Chain - PCoC - CoH - Assassin's Mark (for 5L remove PCoC)
Chest: TS - GMP - PPAD - PtL - WED - Life Leech (using Vaal Pact)
Gloves: CWDT - IC - Temp Chains - Increased duration (still need to get the right socket color)
Helm: Herald of Ash - Hatred - Blink Arrow - Enlighten
Boots: Summon Ice Golem - Vaal Haste - Increased Duration - Reduced Mana

Not using Blood Rage because of Vaal Pact. 4% degen is very annoying when you have no regen. Plus, It's not like I need the extra damage.

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Krish25 schrieb:

Hey guys, If you have problems with intelligence or strength i have the perfect solution.

All you need is a Fertile Mind Crimson jewel (If you need INT) or
Inertia Crimson Jewel (If you need STR)

After that just place the jewel in this slot - http://pasteboard.co/2sVI8HQ3.png

By doing this you will get 60 INT from tree and 22 from the jewel, total 82 INT, Enjoy! :D

Whilst that is a great way to get extra STR/INT during leveling, I wouldn't recommend it for endgame.
There are already 2x30INT/STR nodes available, and you should easily be able to get the rest on gear. Wasting a potentially powerfull jewel node on those stats is a huge waste when instead you could use a jewel with life, damage, and resists. More powerfull than you could ever get using any other 2 nodes on the tree.