[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

"
Sotto_voce schrieb:


All your gear that has life rolls on has low rolls for life, and low evasion rating.
Unique belt is the prime candidate for upgrading, try to swap it for a rare leather belt. It should be easy to upgrade that, the rest might be a bit more expensive. If you can make up the resists there, you can swap your boots to Atziri's Step.
Consider using rares with high life and evasion instead of Rat's Nest and Maligaro's until you have better gear overall.
You didn't link your rings and amulet but they should also have 70+ life.

Self-cast Enduring Cry.
Add a curse to your CWDT: Enfeeble or Warlord's Mark, or Temporal Chains as you happen to have a green slot.

That 4-Link for Blink Arrow is basically completely wasted imo, try putting some Vaal skills instead, I like Vaal Grace a lot for fighting bosses and opening boxes, you can also put in a Golem if you can be bothered to keep it up. Keep Blink Arrow but don't use any supports for it.

Keep an eye out for jewels with Life % + anything that increases your damage (crit chance, multi, %physical damage, AS with bows, Projectile damage, etc...) or leech.


Thanks, one thing Ive been wondering is if you still need the same amount of leech as you did on the pre-2.0 version, not sure if the leech from the skilltree is enough now, which is mainly why im keeping the wurm's molt.
I just ripped in tempest and decided to try this out.. can i still use the same points and run ice arrow? I found this bow before i ripped.

Thanks!
Rat's nest costs ~5ex on warbands right now. Is it still worth buying it or just roll with a rare until it goes down in price?
I'm thinking about swaping acrobatics for iron reflexes to avoid getting 1 hited by big phys hits

losing phase acro is a big downside though, 30% spell dodge is huge

I'll try using a granite or taste of hate for now, just got to time it correctly. ToH might the better one, but a surgeons granite can last forever on a boss fight for instance
"
skuadak schrieb:
"
Summoner schrieb:
"
duncandun schrieb:
Can this be done as primarily armor instead of evasion? Playing HC and evasion just feels so rippy. Infact I did just RIP to a unique rakano in kaoms, and felt like I probably would have survived if i had decent phys reduction instead of evasion.

so yeah, how is it with armor?


The biggest problem is that the build is almost entirely in the dex part of the tree, so you're not getting many STR nodes. Getting enough green sockets on an armor chest for a 6L is likely to be hard too.


So it isn't about just IR but real armor base?

Anyway, even if so :


...
but srsly I'm thinking he thought about Iron Reflexes. (Unless I'm missing something, that's also possible).



Even putting one of that jewel in all 3 available sockets would only flip about half of the skilltree dex nodes over 120-150 of 310 (depending on what happens with the two on the line); to which you'd add another 60 strength from normal STR nodes. You'd still be short in strength I think.

IR itself got nerfed a patch or two back since the bonus eva from dex nodes. You might be able to work; but you'd be fighting the skill tree all the way; and because of how armor scales it soaks a much smaller percentage of the big hits that 1-shot you than the little nuisance hits you can leech your way through anyway. IF you want to try it, post and let us know how it goes; but I think it's probably a bad idea.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
"
kabumpe schrieb:
"
Sotto_voce schrieb:


All your gear that has life rolls on has low rolls for life, and low evasion rating.
Unique belt is the prime candidate for upgrading, try to swap it for a rare leather belt. It should be easy to upgrade that, the rest might be a bit more expensive. If you can make up the resists there, you can swap your boots to Atziri's Step.
Consider using rares with high life and evasion instead of Rat's Nest and Maligaro's until you have better gear overall.
You didn't link your rings and amulet but they should also have 70+ life.

Self-cast Enduring Cry.
Add a curse to your CWDT: Enfeeble or Warlord's Mark, or Temporal Chains as you happen to have a green slot.

That 4-Link for Blink Arrow is basically completely wasted imo, try putting some Vaal skills instead, I like Vaal Grace a lot for fighting bosses and opening boxes, you can also put in a Golem if you can be bothered to keep it up. Keep Blink Arrow but don't use any supports for it.

Keep an eye out for jewels with Life % + anything that increases your damage (crit chance, multi, %physical damage, AS with bows, Projectile damage, etc...) or leech.


Thanks, one thing Ive been wondering is if you still need the same amount of leech as you did on the pre-2.0 version, not sure if the leech from the skilltree is enough now, which is mainly why im keeping the wurm's molt.


I have .8% mana and 1.2% life leech and I'm doing quite well. The way leech works in 2.0; each individual hit is rate capped, so you want to get a ton of small hits really fast instead of one or two huge ones. TS works really good for this. Not sure if the Vitality Void cluster is still needed at 15k DPS, I took it at around 4-5k; but I wanted the extra to compensate for weaknesses in my playstyle/ability (I need a more defensive build even in SC to keep leveling past the RIPs). OTOH I'm currently bouncing around on either side of the 6k mark on the Warbands ladder; which I think is the 1st time I've been on the ladder since the 2012 closed beta (when ladder was a large chunk of the playerbase) so I'm doing fairly well for myself I think.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
"
skuadak schrieb:
"
Sotto_voce schrieb:
"
Summoner schrieb:


The biggest problem is that the build is almost entirely in the dex part of the tree, so you're not getting many STR nodes. Getting enough green sockets on an armor chest for a 6L is likely to be hard too.


You lose acrobatics and phase acrobatics too, which constitute a very significant portion of your defences.

I don't see much advantage tbh.


I thought about hybrid gear, if you taken enough* of that eva/arm nodes around duelist you'd have, well, some armor after *1/2. Better than nothing, plus granite flasks with +xx% more armor and you have that say, 40% reduction on top of evasion and dodge. Plus 3 endu ch, AA and you're quite sturdy. Also many hybrid uniq chests are pretty decent def-wise - Lighting Coil, Bellys or D. Defiance

*enough equals all of them, plus most likely 1 or 2 additional jewels with arn/eva. Or taking stuff separately, but that seems not economical




this is kind of what i was thinking, i know some people who run abyssus on HC will just stack endless amounts of armor to the point where the abyssus doesn't really hurt them much anymore. Was thinking even with acrobatics it'd be possible to almost make up for the 50% armor loss.
"
Summoner schrieb:

Even putting one of that jewel in all 3 available sockets would only flip about half of the skilltree dex nodes over 120-150 of 310 (depending on what happens with the two on the line); to which you'd add another 60 strength from normal STR nodes. You'd still be short in strength I think.

IR itself got nerfed a patch or two back since the bonus eva from dex nodes. You might be able to work; but you'd be fighting the skill tree all the way; and because of how armor scales it soaks a much smaller percentage of the big hits that 1-shot you than the little nuisance hits you can leech your way through anyway. IF you want to try it, post and let us know how it goes; but I think it's probably a bad idea.


I admit that's mostly my belife/hope, no proofs nor even proper math done. If I make that attempt, I will post details of my succes/defeat ofc.

Btw It's just that I really like phase acro+atziri steps combo and plain acro . Plus c'mon I've been running IR since beggining till last month of 1.3. That would be lame to respec back into IR now imo.

I'm yet to hear that this may be good idea*, which ofc makes me even more sure I wanna try to combine both acros and evasion with just armor (without using determination and kaom's, too, for no particular reason)

Edit:
* @duncandun posted before I finished this post

Burn all the orbs!
Zuletzt bearbeitet von skuadak#1891 um 03.08.2015, 20:52:41
"
Mousr schrieb:
Rat's nest costs ~5ex on warbands right now. Is it still worth buying it or just roll with a rare until it goes down in price?


DPS-wise (and for clear speed) it's still worth it. However, you lose 1 life roll (and resists, but those arent so big issue). And, of course, you also lose quite a lot of currency :).

If i'd chose what to use - Maligaro or Rat's Nest, i'd chosen Rat's Nest.
IGN: MortalKombat
Molten Strike build guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1346504

There is no knowledge
That is not power
Hey guys, If you have problems with intelligence or strength i have the perfect solution.

All you need is a Fertile Mind Crimson jewel (If you need INT) or
Inertia Crimson Jewel (If you need STR)

After that just place the jewel in this slot - http://pasteboard.co/2sVI8HQ3.png

By doing this you will get 60 INT from tree and 22 from the jewel, total 82 INT, Enjoy! :D

Beitrag melden

Konto melden:

Meldegrund

Weitere Informationen: