10% xp penalty is far too frustrating

To everyone who says to just git gud, how many of you have gotten to level 100 in poe 1? What about in this game? Did you do it with carries, or with a meta build guide you looked up, cause if either you didn't earn that level 100 (especially the carries).

My biggest problem with the level 100 races is that it all boils down to who makes the best all around tank, since unless you want to spend an insane amount of time grinding, you are going to get hit with really strong attacks sometimes. People argue if there's true unavoidable one-shots, but even if every attack is perfectly avoidable, no one is perfect. We're not machines. Eventually you're going to take a big hit. So getting to level 100 without carries is about crunching down build variety massively. Why? How is that fun or engaging for the game that's supposed to be about insane technical depth and massive build variety?

In an interview someone (I believe Jonathan) said they were considering making the XP penalty only apply from lvl 90 up. And honestly? I could live with that. The last 10 lvls aren't necessary for a build and it would satisfy all the annoying af "git gud" people without being disproportionately damaging to everyone else's experience. I don't like XP loss being in the game at all, but if it HAS to be, put it from lvl 90 to 100.

As others have already said, poe 2 already has plenty of ways to punish players for dying, it doesn't need more.

Agree XP loss is an extremely unfun mechanic especially when one shots are so common in this game.

Just wanted to play a bit more today evening after not feeling like it at all the last two days of barely making any progress. Did a T4 map (my highest waystone), everything was so easy it bored me to tears, then it dropped a T5 stone, so I did that... and boom, suddenly I die, and I have no idea what even killed me. Waystone gone and now my highest is a T3, and of course 10% xp gone again.

Feels like piss to play an RPG just to lose progress instead of making any. That's it, I've had enough, maybe I'll check back in a month or three to see if they fixed this nonsense.

Goodbye.

XP penalty only add unnecessary tedium to the game. There are already massive penalties for dying. XP on Death in a world where random 1 shots are lurking around every corner, and the mapping is already a hell of a slog as it is, the XP penalty is just a big middle finger to the player. This isn't hard guys.

Removing player progression is NEVER fun.

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Pashid#4643 schrieb:

just don't die, problem solved.
Reaching high level is supposed to be a rewarding achievement, not a overtime freebie handout.

how tf do ppl say stuff like this unironically?

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Zeddrik#7843 schrieb:

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KingExodusGG#1474 schrieb:

XP loss is designed as an indicator for you to learn how to play.

Erm no its not, even kripp the guy that loves ruthless and the golden child ggg allways listen says there is nothing learning about after death effects which is killing people in maps at.


i hope you get to 90+ and die from amob that blows you up in higher tier maps which you had no control over and could not see coming, and lose 10 hours of exp,
then you can tell you self git gud man

As someone with numerous level 100 characters and who has plenty of experience leveling from 95 to 100 via maps, I have had my share of dying and losing chunks of exp. Losing hours at a time forced me to adjust my play and strategy and ultimately "fixing" the problems on the way to 100. As I said it's there to teach you how to play.

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KingExodusGG#1474 schrieb:

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Zeddrik#7843 schrieb:

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KingExodusGG#1474 schrieb:

XP loss is designed as an indicator for you to learn how to play.

Erm no its not, even kripp the guy that loves ruthless and the golden child ggg allways listen says there is nothing learning about after death effects which is killing people in maps at.


i hope you get to 90+ and die from amob that blows you up in higher tier maps which you had no control over and could not see coming, and lose 10 hours of exp,
then you can tell you self git gud man

As someone with numerous level 100 characters and who has plenty of experience leveling from 95 to 100 via maps, I have had my share of dying and losing chunks of exp. Losing hours at a time forced me to adjust my play and strategy and ultimately "fixing" the problems on the way to 100. As I said it's there to teach you how to play.

Dying to random oneshots teaches you nothing. This game doesn't even have a deathlog lol you have no idea what killed you 99% of the time. And most average sc trade enjoyers won't just think "ah I have died and lost 5 hours of progress, let me calmly review what I could improve in my build". They'll just feel dejected or angry, or completely demotivated from wanting to play more for the whole day even. And just logout.

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Dying to random oneshots teaches you nothing. This game doesn't even have a deathlog lol you have no idea what killed you 99% of the time. And most average sc trade enjoyers won't just think "ah I have died and lost 5 hours of progress, let me calmly review what I could improve in my build". They'll just feel dejected or angry, or completely demotivated from wanting to play more for the whole day even. And just logout.

Sorry but you don't know what killed me either and to assume it was random oneshots is on you. This is not an accurate thing. Just play better, its very simple if you want to avoid the xp loss....


There are so many more important things to change vs. this type of trivial stuff.

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Toforto#2372 schrieb:

+1
Yep exp loss sucks. The game has too many oneshots and on-death effects to even justify it.

this

Play our game and progress.

Sorry I died today, and it was all a waste.