[3.27] The dirty Scorpion-Tail|Herald of Agony| Chaos-Cyclone-Necro|Arachnophobia Allstars 270M > 4B

Well build can be looks fine espeacially, i tried to built low budget form of this build but it is really hard to play until you can buy the gems from NPC.

I will start chemo because of build and if it is not turn to be good times, this build will be the build which make me leave from POB completely...

I hope i can to be cancer in early and then it can be turn to be healing after all.

If it is not please tell me to stop and i will go build my 2 years ago builds, they can make more fun

Thanks for the build!
It's my second time playing it and I can't play anything else now :D
First time I played it I hit a wall - didn't have any currency to make progress with items and have fun while doing it - I was pretty tanky and did some damage but not even close to what I had on my pcoc of bouncing pathfinder at the time.

This league I actually got lucky and dropped a hinekora's lock running low level maps and got a headhunter in ultimatum, all while spinning along our scorpion friend.

I've bought some items for the build, but currently can't figure out how I'd go from 15(19 while switching fork for vicious proj) mill to 200 in your pob. Link to my current pathfinder - https://pobb.in/as_0OsN6vMhD

I know that I can switch a few jewels for better ones and also craft/buy better clusters, but I don't see it making that much of a difference in terms of damage. What am I missing?

Also haven't done Lycia (haven't done any sanctum runs before, except for poe2), but that's on my list. Currently using breach bloodline to have phys and fire damage reductions.

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Also haven't tried other ascendancies since I moved from toxic rain to pcoc and then to hoa all while playing pathfinder - what do you recommend with my current setup and about 50 divs to spare? Should I switch to another class? I like having flask all the time, but manually using curses is killing me and I was thinking about switching to necro for inbuilt chaos conversion on hoa to take autocursing gloves, but I'm not sure if giving up on inbuilt mageblood is worth it for autocurses.

So many things to consider, really love the build for this.

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Nashirama#1488 schrieb:

Thanks for the build!
It's my second time playing it and I can't play anything else now :D
First time I played it I hit a wall - didn't have any currency to make progress with items and have fun while doing it - I was pretty tanky and did some damage but not even close to what I had on my pcoc of bouncing pathfinder at the time.

This league I actually got lucky and dropped a hinekora's lock running low level maps and got a headhunter in ultimatum, all while spinning along our scorpion friend.

I've bought some items for the build, but currently can't figure out how I'd go from 15(19 while switching fork for vicious proj) mill to 200 in your pob. Link to my current pathfinder - https://pobb.in/as_0OsN6vMhD

I know that I can switch a few jewels for better ones and also craft/buy better clusters, but I don't see it making that much of a difference in terms of damage. What am I missing?

Also haven't done Lycia (haven't done any sanctum runs before, except for poe2), but that's on my list. Currently using breach bloodline to have phys and fire damage reductions.

*Edit:

Also haven't tried other ascendancies since I moved from toxic rain to pcoc and then to hoa all while playing pathfinder - what do you recommend with my current setup and about 50 divs to spare? Should I switch to another class? I like having flask all the time, but manually using curses is killing me and I was thinking about switching to necro for inbuilt chaos conversion on hoa to take autocursing gloves, but I'm not sure if giving up on inbuilt mageblood is worth it for autocurses.

So many things to consider, really love the build for this.

Hehehe, thank you a lot too Nashirama!

Your damage will scale fast up with mainly the 5-7 boosts:

+ HoA-tipping-lvl 34
+ 1 more #5p-voices, 3 more medium clusters pure agony
+ and the Crit-HoA scaling for burstdamage on thougher bosses with Spirit offering, Assassin's mark and Maata's Teaching.
+ a source of HoA-frenzy charges like the chieftain-spectres
+ a source for more hexes like the AG with helmet Ylfeban's Trickery
+ better small clusters (35% increased effect, t-1 suffixes)
+ the tattoos to free up passives



■ The Maths of HoA ■





You have build up good the auras and keygear already. You miss only unaffected by poison on new rare boots, used against the golden rule's hundreds reflected poisons in high density, and more chaos-resis on the circle of nostalgia. Woooow, that's a well done helmet!

Congrats to your awesome drops!
In average every 3th league I would guess some early nice drops make the gearing much, much faster. Also with the increasing experiences currency is much easier to detect, to craft or to farm. The atlas-tree and currency-strats are a science on their own. This league for most gear only a few chaos are needed, thats more fun with the new trading. And it seems to me that much less price-fixers are strolling around. Most expendive wss my watcher's eye for 4 div, Ashes for 2 div including charisma, and one ghastly jewel 100c. Nothing else needed div-currency in my gear until now.



To choose the fitting ascendancy is always a though choice.
This league the much in qol buffed, now reviving spectres are easy and interesting to optimize, especially as Necro.
But the guardian is strongest for is own aura-stacking and the trickster remains most relaxing and tanky.
And there are so many interesting and fitting bloodlines further.


I am myself the typical 1 char each league-player, so I would keep the pathfinder. He has the flexible belt and flask, or the flexible jewel-slots. That's strong too and has the fun of much flexibility. Spectres can be easy built in too with a well rolled minion-resis shaper bone-ring as pathfinder.

But yes, Tricksters, Guardians and Necros are a bit better optimized especially in lategame when you want to switch to a mageblood-belt.







Take a look into the updated actual necro-pob. I'll update the pathfinder-pob (and other ascendancies) in a few days too with more auras outsourced on the spectres, and outsourced hexes on the AG and and a fitting shaper-bone-ring.

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GoTTzi#7111 schrieb:

Well build can be looks fine espeacially, i tried to built low budget form of this build but it is really hard to play until you can buy the gems from NPC.

I will start chemo because of build and if it is not turn to be good times, this build will be the build which make me leave from POB completely...

I hope i can to be cancer in early and then it can be turn to be healing after all.

If it is not please tell me to stop and i will go build my 2 years ago builds, they can make more fun

I send best wishes to you!

Yes, a little bit currency is needed for starting the build. Watcher's eye es and life gained on hit i.e. is probably most expensive, around 4 div, and it`s needed around t15 - t16.
You need a lucky drop or farm a bit blight for the 4 divs, then after you can start the more difficult strategies.

Overall all other stuff is quite cheap this league. I entered with around 7-8 div-gear into my first t-17 maps this league.

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Crosfade#5314 schrieb:

Hi, usually posting in Scion forums, as I went with scion, but I'm not sure what am I doing wrong? defense wise I'm doing good, but dmg wise it seems like too little, when I copied my items and skills in PoB it shows mby like 2.5mil dmg, but with that dmg it took me like 50mins to kill sirus, cuz I lack dmg and I can't understand why. I could tank him almost forever, but very low dmg.

https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/Crosfade-5314/character/DirtyFug

this is my char

As far as I see you do not use the jewel the golden rule?
So without you will not get the needed doubled full HoA-virulences against singletargets.

When I import your char with the default configurations (HoA-tail attack, withers) Pob shows 12M, with bloodline-configs (curse-effects, chaotic might, profane ground, malediction) 22M.

That is not optimal. Mainly you miss the 3 medium clusters pure agony. Your HoA lvl 35 is good, 80% poisonchances for virulences should be okay, but 100% poisonchances with purifying flame of revelation are better and result into doubled by golden rule 40% more HoA virulences too.

When you outsource 2-3 auras on spectres, you should have enough capacity to take in the 2-3 more medium clusters.

In these days the "Total Tank Necro Hybrid poison-hoa"-pob is best optimized:
https://pobb.in/3bdCXXcq

I worked a lot on the guide and necro-pob, so the Scion-pob etc. I`ll optimize delayed in a few days with grafts, shaper-ring and spectres.
Going without spectres work alternative easy too, but with their qol-buff they are strong for discipline, frenzy charges and vitality and have also as Scion enough own resis.

Your phys max hit taken probably needs a buff, take a look into "checklist stats" for higher --> "flat dr".

With your Maata`s Teaching use Spirit Offering and Assassin`s Mark, then you are reaching already 35M, with 3 more medium clusters you will reach already 60M and more.

Great belt and helmet, looks overall good! But you need the golden rule and more medium clusters and when you scale the crits you need spirit offering and assasin's mark for the high burstdamage.

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Chromino#4813 schrieb:

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GoTTzi#7111 schrieb:

Well build can be looks fine espeacially, i tried to built low budget form of this build but it is really hard to play until you can buy the gems from NPC.

I will start chemo because of build and if it is not turn to be good times, this build will be the build which make me leave from POB completely...

I hope i can to be cancer in early and then it can be turn to be healing after all.

If it is not please tell me to stop and i will go build my 2 years ago builds, they can make more fun

I send best wishes to you!

Yes, a little bit currency is needed for starting the build. Watcher's eye es and life gained on hit i.e. is probably most expensive, around 4 div, and it`s needed around t15 - t16.
You need a lucky drop or farm a bit blight for the 4 divs, then after you can start the more difficult strategies.

Overall all other stuff is quite cheap this league. I entered with around 7-8 div-gear into my first t-17 maps this league.

I am sure you are right but i cant even bpass Act 6... too weak against attacks and max i can survive until half of health of Last Boss.

Dont have enough currency and items atm. This weakness is too much. Since years, it is first time i cant pass each of Act.

And probably there is no a lot of players as before. Trading doesnt work as before, normally there was always people to trade currency. Now there is no anything to sell or buy

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GoTTzi#7111 schrieb:

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Chromino#4813 schrieb:

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GoTTzi#7111 schrieb:

Well build can be looks fine espeacially, i tried to built low budget form of this build but it is really hard to play until you can buy the gems from NPC.

I will start chemo because of build and if it is not turn to be good times, this build will be the build which make me leave from POB completely...

I hope i can to be cancer in early and then it can be turn to be healing after all.

If it is not please tell me to stop and i will go build my 2 years ago builds, they can make more fun

I send best wishes to you!

Yes, a little bit currency is needed for starting the build. Watcher's eye es and life gained on hit i.e. is probably most expensive, around 4 div, and it`s needed around t15 - t16.
You need a lucky drop or farm a bit blight for the 4 divs, then after you can start the more difficult strategies.

Overall all other stuff is quite cheap this league. I entered with around 7-8 div-gear into my first t-17 maps this league.

I am sure you are right but i cant even bpass Act 6... too weak against attacks and max i can survive until half of health of Last Boss.

Dont have enough currency and items atm. This weakness is too much. Since years, it is first time i cant pass each of Act.

And probably there is no a lot of players as before. Trading doesnt work as before, normally there was always people to trade currency. Now there is no anything to sell or buy

Start with Ball lightning of Orbiting 1 chaos in trade.

Then get chance to poison and unleash by vendor 2 identify scrolls, link them to the ball lightnings.

Then HoA, minion damage, vicious projectiles, damage on full life, void manipulation 5 identity scrolls by vendor.

Then Cybil's paw 1 alchemy orb in trade.

Path serpentine spellslinger and fatal toxins.

This will carry you into t2 maps.

With 3-5 breachs or blights you get fast that currency.

Hi finally came for advice after hitting a little wall. It's hard to change anything, when single change drops you under max res or you dont have enough atributes. Read your faq couple of times but it don't answer the question if it's worth investing in that at current level.

My current char https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/keepers/character/fenrir866-7406/SilverWitches?i=0&search=name%3Dsilverwi

It has 7,5 k es ( dont know why it shows under 7k). Could not find a way to go hybrid but I am happy with current tankyness.

I want to stay to max block as close as possible.

I have few questions:
Should I get rid of shavrone ring? Degen sometimes is very close to kill me when there are no monsters to kill. And at times it feels just bad. Is it worth to have regeneration for energy shield, can I get some reasonable numbers of es and mana regeneration and how would it feel and what I would have to sacrafice? I am completly lost

What are my next upgrades?
my options:
- svalinn, but with my current armor I lose a lot of es on being hit.
- progenesis, should be easy to replace 1 flask
- aegis with determination ( save strenght) maybe with more block
- change of ring/rings to have some es regeneration and mana regen
- voices 3
- ashes with more curses ( again will have to fight for attributes)
- go for more mana reservation
- getting another voices 5, dont know how could I save that many points

Thanks for help

Well guys. I have about 5 mirrors into the build. I purposely didn't go second curse even though its way more damage. I really dont want to press buttons.

here's my pob. Things left to improve:
-chaos res on clusters, can then get another 95+% increased herald damage ring, also can probably replace the grace effectiveness implicit with something better.
-ES tattooes
-Suppress Tattoos

Not sure what else to update.

Showcase: Delve Depth 1001 - https://youtu.be/YVLWekLm8rQ
Aul Depth 605 - https://youtu.be/FBbvrV62zDo
16.5 Harbingers - https://youtu.be/OXhYqEkAohc
EoW - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZMELwGsgUQ

Adam:

Where is your POB:P? I found you character on poe ninja - but there are differences from videos.

What I could notice:


- your account show that you use only 2 voices but in your videos you use 3:
I hope you use 3 voices because you lose 69% of damage
With 4 voices and 12 pure agony you would deal 48% more(total) then 9 pure agony.

What can you sacrifice: I dont think you need vitality aura - you can then drop small cluster jewel,
drop grand spectrum ( you need 3 or 0 ). If you want Critical strike multiplier invest in the tree Fearsome Force - better then single grand spectrum vs 3 grand spectrum you need to compare how much it cost in passives

- With such high budget - drop pierce and buy awakened fork ( I really envy you:P)

- Graft - use summoning tulgraft with +2% cold resist ( buff your resists to 89% max)
you can also get better molten xophgraph with maximum armor possible

- you dont use poison on minion drop vicious projectiles for increased critical damage support/damage on full health/

- When you start fixing your resists, you can use foulborn the blue dream - for each tatoo with +6% lightning resist you get increased ES [ just use other resists on gear and add only lightning tatoos for max profit]

- change aegis with corrupted grace to corrupted determination - you dont need 159 str but 98 ( save a lot of attributes), but you will lose some HP


To test:
- have you tested minion leech ( from ascendancy) + Ghost reaver? - have no idea what is better - you loose es recovery with minion leech( not regeneration). Would love to have answer for that - dont have funds.


Things I want to test it might be possible with your budget:

1. Farewell to Flesh - from lycia ascendancy ( invest 4 points in necro asc. and 4 in lycia) - use arogance support for herald, you need shavronnes wrapping for armour :
benefits - saves 40-50% mana reservation), adds 50-80% more damage, you can change rings for something better
cons: you lose a lot of life, you lose 4 points in herald which might cost a lot of damage.

Edit: did some calculations - damage wise its aroudn the same level - only pros is change of rings

You can always add some forbidden jewels


Another edit - Your Maata weapon is only +1 minion skills gems !!!