👻3.20👻 Kay's Summoner💥SRS Bomber💀Poison SRS💀Melee SRS🕷️Spiders💀Skeleton Mages

I'm stuck with 5M dps on AW. No idea what to improve now...
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/mordSlowik/characters
Only witch there. Can someone give me advice?

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mordSlowik schrieb:

I'm stuck with 5M dps on AW. No idea what to improve now...
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/mordSlowik/characters
Only witch there. Can someone give me advice?

Your PoB with Kays Configuration: https://pastebin.com/wQev7e0X

7,613,434 DPS , make sure that your AG has Kingmaker and you use Pale Seraphim and Demon Harpy, + the usual Host and Carnage Chieftain.

Instead of Pale Seraphim or Demon Harpy you can use Arena Master for inc. 20% Attackspeed/Castspeed/Movement

But its only Numbers, usually for Map Clear, 2x Host, 2x Carnage is best because you have faster 3 Charges and if they die easier to re-summon.

Just wanted to post to inform other minion players that minions still are able to cleave on Hydrosphere with Melee Splash support gems for double damage.

This was supposed to be fixed this league, which it was... but only for player characters. Minions can still cleave on Hydrosphere.

This is especially relevant for all Spider, Golem, Skelly(melee) and zombie players.

A video of the testing can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGJNY30jXXM&ab_channel=HenrikSwanstr%C3%B6m

The first 3 kills are without Hydrosphere, the next 3 are with Hydrosphere and the last kills are mixed with no Hydrosphere from 100-50% and hydrosphere used from 50-0%.

This is an easy way for melee minion builds to double their single target dps if you weren't aware of it.

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Deadandlivin schrieb:

Just wanted to post to inform other minion players that minions still are able to cleave on Hydrosphere with Melee Splash support gems for double damage.

Awesome info, thx, so hopefully GGG isn't reading this ;)

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Aijendo schrieb:

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Deadandlivin schrieb:

Just wanted to post to inform other minion players that minions still are able to cleave on Hydrosphere with Melee Splash support gems for double damage.

Awesome info, thx, so hopefully GGG isn't reading this ;)

Haha, already shared the video with Ghazzy and he has made a video on it to spread the word :)

Hopefully GGG won't hotfix it this late into the league so we might still be able to enjoy it for 3.17
But it's definitely getting fixed for 3.18

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Deadandlivin schrieb:

Haha, already shared the video with Ghazzy and he has made a video on it to spread the word :)

Hopefully GGG won't hotfix it this late into the league so we might still be able to enjoy it for 3.17
But it's definitely getting fixed for 3.18

If Hydrosphere is only working with Melee Builds, I assume GGG won't do anything, due to the fact that those Builds are way less dps than "Skele Mages" this League.

To get high DPS with Spiders you need the Squire (83ex) and Carrion Golem or Animate Weapon aren't S Tier.

And Spiders and Weapons aren't my Style, because its too anoying for me to resummon them. I failed to Resummon Spiders on a harder Maven Encounter.

General Info for Path of Building:

If some Characters are public, you can use PoB:

Import/Export Build = PC : "AcountName" = Start

= League Archnemesis = select char = Import

If you want to get the PasteBin:

Build Sharing = Generate = "Pastebin.com" and copy

Go to "Pastebin.com" you paste (control+v) into New Paste Window

Paste Name/Title = For Example = Charname Build

and "Create New Paste", now you can copy the URL
(pastebin.com/XXXXXXX)

Done

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Deadandlivin schrieb:

Just wanted to post to inform other minion players that minions still are able to cleave on Hydrosphere with Melee Splash support gems for double damage.

This was supposed to be fixed this league, which it was... but only for player characters. Minions can still cleave on Hydrosphere

Whoops :) That's definitely a bug. Reminds me of pinpoint support in 3.12. "does not support minions" but it did. I don't promote bug mechanics so I never used it in my build guides for that league and I didn't talk about it. But I think many guide makers used the pinpoint bug.

GGG won't fix it in 3.17. They didn't fix pinpoint. But they will definitely fix it in 3.18.


Edit: change don't support -> don't promote

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kayella schrieb:

GGG won't fix it in 3.17. They didn't fix pinpoint. But they will definitely fix it in 3.18.

I hope Melee Minions get some love from GGG so I vote for "leave it as it is."

And more I wish that Permanent Spectres got S Tier like in the past.

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kayella schrieb:

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Deadandlivin schrieb:

Just wanted to post to inform other minion players that minions still are able to cleave on Hydrosphere with Melee Splash support gems for double damage.

This was supposed to be fixed this league, which it was... but only for player characters. Minions can still cleave on Hydrosphere

Whoops :) That's definitely a bug. Reminds me of pinpoint support in 3.12. "does not support minions" but it did. I don't promote bug mechanics so I never used it in my build guides for that league and I didn't talk about it. But I think many guide makers used the pinpoint bug.

GGG won't fix it in 3.17. They didn't fix pinpoint. But they will definitely fix it in 3.18.


Edit: change don't support -> don't promote

I would never put this thing in my buildguides either. I didn't even include it in 3.16 either because I thought the mechanic obviously was broken and GGG would remove it. The mechanic reminded me about SO shotgunning and how a support gem was allowed to be both the best single target and AoE support at the same time (Like GMP was for SOs). It's obvious by now that GGG don't like these type of interactions and will work to remove them.

For this reason, I don't promote things like this in my buildguides any longer. However, I want to the inforation to get out there to let people know that the mechanics exist. Both to help people out (Since the mechanic obviously is broken and every melee minion build SHOULD use it) and to make sure GGG notices it and removes it.

If these type of mechanics go through unnoticed without them being widely known there's a risk GGG miss them again and forgets to nerf them for next patch. I personally dislike this mechanic alot, it's clunky and obviously not intended. I want people to start using and promoting it again so GGG can see that it still exist and remove it once and for all.