[3.14] Indigon Cast on Crit Ice Nova/Spark Pathfinder - Very tanky, fast, very high DPS

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wariows schrieb:

Hi... Thanks for the guide!

Do you mind explaining how you calculated the 16000 mana spent recently?
Right now the best I can do is take my cyclone to around 87 mana cost which would be around 7000 mana spent recently.

Also, why do we use clarity lvl 1? It's giving me around 6 mana regen per second which is pretty much nothing... I might be missing something here.

Is that with weaving in Sigil and Blood Rage? Because fully stacked vortex (well, it disabling itself) into Sigil into Blood Rage while spinning gets you quite high, and then you weave in Blood Rage as needed.

And Clarity is *only* for watchers eye mod and nothing else.

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thedeathbeam schrieb:

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wariows schrieb:

Hi... Thanks for the guide!

Do you mind explaining how you calculated the 16000 mana spent recently?
Right now the best I can do is take my cyclone to around 87 mana cost which would be around 7000 mana spent recently.

Also, why do we use clarity lvl 1? It's giving me around 6 mana regen per second which is pretty much nothing... I might be missing something here.

Is that with weaving in Sigil and Blood Rage? Because fully stacked vortex (well, it disabling itself) into Sigil into Blood Rage while spinning gets you quite high, and then you weave in Blood Rage as needed.

And Clarity is *only* for watchers eye mod and nothing else.

Thanks for the response!

Yes, that's with Sigil and Blood Rage... I tried to optimize the costs a little bit and even with all that, the maximum I saw on Cyclone was around 113 which would mean I had spent around 9500 of mana recently.

I think my mana pool still quite low (sitting around 3000 and something), so it prevents me from using vortex one more time.

I just curious about how you calculated the 16000.

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wariows schrieb:

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thedeathbeam schrieb:

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wariows schrieb:

Hi... Thanks for the guide!

Do you mind explaining how you calculated the 16000 mana spent recently?
Right now the best I can do is take my cyclone to around 87 mana cost which would be around 7000 mana spent recently.

Also, why do we use clarity lvl 1? It's giving me around 6 mana regen per second which is pretty much nothing... I might be missing something here.

Is that with weaving in Sigil and Blood Rage? Because fully stacked vortex (well, it disabling itself) into Sigil into Blood Rage while spinning gets you quite high, and then you weave in Blood Rage as needed.

And Clarity is *only* for watchers eye mod and nothing else.

Thanks for the response!

Yes, that's with Sigil and Blood Rage... I tried to optimize the costs a little bit and even with all that, the maximum I saw on Cyclone was around 113 which would mean I had spent around 9500 of mana recently.

I think my mana pool still quite low (sitting around 3000 and something), so it prevents me from using vortex one more time.

I just curious about how you calculated the 16000.

16000 is max ramp indigon so I just set it to that and then tested in game if I could reach it and I could (by looking at cyclone mana cost just like you did).

Sorry noob question

How to know what is the maximum trigger rate?

Im not sure if its related at all, im totally new to this, but say I will have sources of increased cdr from other items, which means I can have higher AS right? how about the trigger rate? how would I know the limit?

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LeknaatTrueRune schrieb:

Sorry noob question

How to know what is the maximum trigger rate?

Im not sure if its related at all, im totally new to this, but say I will have sources of increased cdr from other items, which means I can have higher AS right? how about the trigger rate? how would I know the limit?

You can see the maximum trigger rate in calcs section when you select your skill (there is screenshot of that in F.A.Q. in why am i not doing damage section).

There are breakpoints for CDR tho so just grabbing extra CDR wont mean you can attack faster. there is 14% CDR, 52% cdr and I think 123% CDR breakpoints to get higher trigger rate

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thedeathbeam schrieb:

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LeknaatTrueRune schrieb:

Sorry noob question

How to know what is the maximum trigger rate?

Im not sure if its related at all, im totally new to this, but say I will have sources of increased cdr from other items, which means I can have higher AS right? how about the trigger rate? how would I know the limit?

You can see the maximum trigger rate in calcs section when you select your skill (there is screenshot of that in F.A.Q. in why am i not doing damage section).

There are breakpoints for CDR tho so just grabbing extra CDR wont mean you can attack faster. there is 14% CDR, 52% cdr and I think 123% CDR breakpoints to get higher trigger rate

Oh saw it! Thanks, loving this build, it totally melts bosses and clears map in an awesome fashion plus its tanky, havent been dying a lot!

Another few questions before giving this build a try. Since we aim for high APS should we implement double Cospri's? Did anyone try this out? Also how do we deal with curses and bleed? Simply avoid running curse mods on map?

Hey Guys,
looking atm for improvements so far if somebody has some Ideas what to upgrade next. Crit chance is mostly fine during mapping @80% crit chance without bottled Faith. Also took 2 medium AoE cluster and awa. Aoe Gem for some pretty nice AoE boost. Not sure where I should spent my money on, thought about crafting some tripple crit multi jewels.

https://pastebin.com/BtXtRi1V

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Tether23 schrieb:

Another few questions before giving this build a try. Since we aim for high APS should we implement double Cospri's? Did anyone try this out? Also how do we deal with curses and bleed? Simply avoid running curse mods on map?

For damage manastorm is better than second cospri on top of it also giving you some mana and life with corruption (and also allows you to be more flexible, e.g when you get enough damage you can just ditch manastorm for defensive shield).

For curses, I reroll temp chains maps and sometimes vulnerability maps, and I have immune to silence jewel corruption.

For corrupted blood, you can also just get corruption on jewel but honestly this build can just tank corrupted blood all day so its not an issue even without it.

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xXx_Kamikaze_xXx schrieb:

Hey Guys,
looking atm for improvements so far if somebody has some Ideas what to upgrade next. Crit chance is mostly fine during mapping @80% crit chance without bottled Faith. Also took 2 medium AoE cluster and awa. Aoe Gem for some pretty nice AoE boost. Not sure where I should spent my money on, thought about crafting some tripple crit multi jewels.

https://pastebin.com/BtXtRi1V

I would say that the biggest upgrade would be nice crit multi + mana ammy instead of foible. Also with Hatred, do you still need Kalisa? With hatred base crit watchers I would assume you can replace Kalisa with idk, maybe Shadows and Dust with base crit corruption? Or something like that. Maybe Breathstealer even.

Your belt can also definitely be better (if you would upgrade your boots to elevated CDR you can go with better belt with aislinged flask effect together with crafted 12% cdr, alternatively your current boots + crafted cdr + cdr abyss jewel inside of stygian).

Oh also, get the stun avoidance craft on your mana flask maybe as it has open suffix atm. And then get the 10% pen if not killed recently on boots instead of stun avoidance, should be around 7% more damage boost.

Also enchant on belt, either AoE or accuracy, depends on what you need.

Oh wow I tried this with Uber Elder and Cortex and damn it was so smooth! Very good damage, actually quite high and also very tanky!

It's probably one of the smoothest run I had. Also tried it with Maven and A9 Sirus and it was great. Will try to record those as well.

Hopefully someone can help me with my POB, I still have no idea if im doing it right or not lol. My profiles public in case anyone can help :P

Uber Elder (Maven Witness)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCoKQZuJrMM

Cortex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkdQnWDFJXI