(3.16) NERFED DO NOT PLAY THIS Raider Archmage BF/BB [CHEAP, Tanky, HCSSF viable, (100m+ dps)

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dangb schrieb:

I am about to quit this build, at least temporarily.

As my first character, I am having a super hard time following the build, specially trying to get through the campaign on my own. The lightning trap is not cutting it anymore.

I believe I will have to follow a more detailed build for now and then maybe I'll come back to this.

You are asking for a more detailed guide but you are still not following this one. Your faster casting is not linked (important for bladefall), your Arcane Cloake needs to be a four link. On top your flasks are a mess for reaching maps.

Really enjoying this build—currently crushing low red maps with pretty mediocre gear. The only real issue I've run into is mana management on bosses that run around a bunch like Al-Hezmin, but that's mostly my lack of patience in general.

Had a few questions after looking at some people on ladder and through the PoB:

1) Is there a reason the endgame PoB tree is taking the 3rd 8% mana node near Wind Dancer instead of finishing the Arcane Chemistry wheel? 8% mana vs 10% mana + 15% increased Mana Recovery Rate from flasks.

2) What are your thoughts on the Trinity support setup with CotB?
https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds?class=Raider&item=Essence-Worm,Call-of-the-Brotherhood&skill=Blade-Blast&blade-blast-support=Trinity-Support

3) With Harvest nerfed do you think Cloak of Defiance is a good chest piece to target for midgame?

4) Once I go Agnostic, when is it safe to drop my Seething Life Flask? I was considering swapping it out for a Jade Flask, since that would push my evasion up a good bit.

5) Double Scepter or Scepter / Shield end game? Do you still think Replica Mistwall is our endgame chase shield, or is that more geared towards HC?

Thanks a lot for putting this guide and build together, Chemist. I last minute switched to this an hour before league start, and the PoB was a great reference.

First of all, thanks for the build!

As I can read throught all posts here ppl have problems with this build. Understanding the "core" requirements and details, so do I had same.

6L + Essence Worm + trashy but decent maces. As much mana, as I can get from equipment with current stash savings.
Still feeling weak. Read all the posts again... Added flask setup (tbh from my perspective flasks are important, but you can keep you alive w/o having 20% quality and exact affixes).

74lvl... So frustated, I f***ed something, cannot pass even 2 waves of Ultimatum in t1 blue map. Dying constantly because lack of dmg.

Once again...
OK, this build is a bit piano play. Sigil of power for dmg, Arcane cloak also gives you dmg + defensive. General's cry for Fortify. Conductivity... I'll skip it for short fights (for bosses when I have a second to cast it).
Flasks, yeah flasks, manaaaa.. Woow, we've done.

Still a bit weak... OK /global 820, done Trials.
Little smile, bcs I know that I'll suck with dmg on UberLab Izaro.
Passed to first Izaro fight - pretty easy - fight...

OK TL;DR
ALL ASCENDANCIES ARE MANDATORY!

After I've got all ascendancy points, build started to be very smooth. Had to used to piano play (played recently way too much one button builds).

Thanks again for sharing build, now game seems to be more satisfying for me.

I disagree that this is not a league starter, however you do need to make sure you read up on the requirements. I feel most posts saying this isn't a viable league starter just haven't read the original post.

I did feel that a four link became mandatory in act 5-6, and if I didn't make sure to upgrade my weapons with lightning spell damage recipe the damage fell off after each act.
I farmed BA between level 58-61 or something like that, then continued.

Post act 10 I bought a 5L for 1c and used Lightning Trap until level 75. I do think it's almost mandatory to get a 5L for the LT to do good damage in maps, damage started falling off after tier 3-4 though and when I had enough currency to invest in some mana items, I swapped to AM BF/BB. I made sure to get as good mana rolls as I could on anything I bought, and managed to buy two scepters with 100+ manarolls for around 3-5c each.
Initial cost to get started with AM was perhaps 10-15c and that gave me around 2.8k life, 3k mana and 250k dps with 10 blades.

Right now I'm level 88 and almost at red maps, no real issues, occasionally I die, mostly due to not popping cooldowns at the correct times. 4.8k life, just reached 6k mana. I think I have around 2 mill dps atm, everything is falling like leaves including Conquerors. I can do most/all Ultimatums in maps including all waves without dying.

Great build, and thank you! It's one of the best starters I've played, it has both damage and can take a hit, and it has cooldowns I can pop when I need that extra survivability or damage boost. Looking forward to red maps and beyond :)

Any tips what my next upgrades should be? Crown? Shield instead of scepter? Clear Mind?

Build is starting to fell really good level 82 atm almost 4k life and 6k mana doing low reds.

Any thoughts about getting way of the poacher instead of avatar of chase? You can get 5 frenzy charges pretty easily which is 20% more damage but lose 20% movement speed and some evasion. Worth?

I think that in softcore you can ditch The Vigil setup and perhaps go with a second sceptre to push damage further, build is pretty tanky already after you have all the required gear and you can squeeze more dps being less clunky (less keys to press)

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buttcommander schrieb:

Any thoughts about getting way of the poacher instead of avatar of chase? You can get 5 frenzy charges pretty easily which is 20% more damage but lose 20% movement speed and some evasion. Worth?

you also lose onslaught increased effect which means more cast speed

all the dribblers saying this isnt league viable lmao
started this build on league start with lightning traps into BFBB at lvl 70 and was fine since day 1 - clearly half of you dont look at the pob or even read the guide properly

currently into tier 11-13 maps and the builds still very good just wondering what you think would be the next thing to go for in terms of upgrades?

What is the main source of mana regen? I'm at lv 72 with 3k mana and I'm running out of mana most of the time (haven't picked up Agnostic yet), I have to rely on my mana flasks a lot.