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Remicaster1 schrieb:

Early high tier map bossing will have some difficulties in a budget , especially against metamorphs because their regen is stupidly strong, but I did not have as much trouble as trickster because of the mana sustain.

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MillenniumDH schrieb:

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Remicaster1 schrieb:

Early high tier map bossing will have some difficulties in a budget , especially against metamorphs because their regen is stupidly strong, but I did not have as much trouble as trickster because of the mana sustain.

What about the performance with a high-budget? Does it start to triumph over Trickster with the same kind of budget?

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Remicaster1 schrieb:

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MillenniumDH schrieb:

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Remicaster1 schrieb:

Early high tier map bossing will have some difficulties in a budget , especially against metamorphs because their regen is stupidly strong, but I did not have as much trouble as trickster because of the mana sustain.

What about the performance with a high-budget? Does it start to triumph over Trickster with the same kind of budget?

Yeah it does, it's like scion herald stacker vs guardian herald stacker. Because PF scales much harder than trickster

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MillenniumDH schrieb:

The AoE stacking is that powerful, huh? I thought Trickster's dot ascendancy nodes would give him an edge.

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SkylerOG schrieb:

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_mrkvn schrieb:

Thanks for the answer Remicaster1 and Viktranka.

Another question. Based on the calculator, we need (or maybe I need, not sure) 30 radius to have 6 overlaps. How to get from 28 to 30 radius to get the 6 overlap? In the PoB guide, the radius is 28.

Sources of possible AoE for this build:
Toxic Rain: +10%
Carcass Jack: +40% to +50%
Natures Reprisal: +50%
Increased Area of Effect Support Gem: +49%(lvl 20) to +55%(awakened lvl 6)
Lethal Assault (3 passives): +5%/+10%/+5%
Heavy Draw (3 passives): 0%/+8%/+12%
Versatile Stance (requires Flesh&Stone Sand Stance - 3 passives): +10%/0%/+15%
Gloves Crafted Mod: +10%
Broadside: +25% (Large Clusters + Megalomaniac Medium Clusters, so can probably do upwards of 6 of these if really wanted to)

And then there are even some additional ways to get it, like the +AoE on an Elder influenced rare bow or warlords influenced ring. I'm also probably missing several possible sources as I just tossed this together off the top of my head.

If I get the time later, I'll try to breakdown the percentage increases needed per AoE pod overlap breakpoint.

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Viktranka schrieb:

So if I understand correctly, the idea is we can only affect increases to "area" not to "radius" but to double the radius you have to quadruple the area so +300% area is 400% original area so should equal to double the radius?

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Viktranka schrieb:

3x bigger radius would mean 9x bigger area so we'd need +800% increase?

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I just wanna know if I understand the basics correctly, if area of a circle is pi*radius^2 then we could reverse the formula and the relation of area to radius will always be exponential. I imagine your programming formula was proving exactly that? I'm not a programmer. :(

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drunkydragon schrieb:

Remicaster1, thanks for your build guide!

I got a few questions, and I hope you can answer them.

1. Can this build be league starter? Remember its a league start, so no fancy things, no quill rain, no tabula, no nothing. I'm thinking to use it as a 3.12 league start.

2. From what I see, seams like 6L Carcass Jack is required. How much that could cost, since it require double corruption, which is not guaranteed to be rolled in alva temple. So I guess it can be very expesnive. And IMO you would have to be very lucky to get such corruption yourself in the temple, since it can also ruin your 6L body armour.


3. In your '4.2 Ascendancy Order' section, you used images from discord (which are now broken, I really don't know why ppl use images from discord when they can use imgur for isntance), but anway, can you PLEASE edit that section and just list correct order of Ascendancy?


4. I loaded your PoB pastebin. I see the cluster jewels you picked for 'Final lvl 98 tree'. BUT... don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be an azzhole, just looking at things from 'starter' point of view...

Some (most) cluster jewels with specific mods are not cheap at all. I see you have one with:

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Adds 8 passive skills (enchant)
Broadside
Tempered Arrowheads
2 added passive skills are jewel sockets
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and the 2nd one:
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Adds 8 passive skills (enchant)
Broadside
Tempered Arrowheads
Heavy Hitter
2 added passive skills are jewel sockets
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I'm sure these are not cheap, So...can you suggest which mode is most important, so the 'starter' player can try to get that mode on a cluster jewel as a temp solution until he gets more currency to afford a jewel with all these mods on it?

Also, (I know its stuped but), since without cluster jewels its gonna be hard to do higher red maps, and earn some currency.... any suggestion how can we get more currency, so we can have enough to get those cluster jewels?

5. Quill Rain bow requires lvl 5 char. If anyone gets it, 99% is not gonna 'give it to you' because they would use it for leveling. Some that decide to sell it, wont sell it for cheap (early). So... is it possible to somehow farm Quill Rain bow, early? It require lvl 5 char, so....(maybe I'm wrong) but would it be a good idea to farm it where monster lvls are 3-5 ? For instance in 'The Submerged Passage' ?

Thanks in advance for your answer, and don't mind the tone of my questions. I was just trying to be direct. :)