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xMustard schrieb:

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The spread range of spore pods from Toxic Rain is now affected by Area of Effect modifiers.

the absolute worst case scenario. i knew they were going to do it this way, but i hoped they were going to just reduce the projectiles and dmg a bit.

so basically now it scales area like rain of arrows does. the more inc area you have, the more spread (previously only +arrows gave that) AND the more pod area you have (previously this is all +aoe did, to increase overlap)

so basically sources of +area will not change your single target at all. it will merely change your clear speed by having more aoe and more spread. it should equal out to about the same as well.

so the opposite is true as well. a smaller radius or things like conc effect will not increase your single target either because at the same ratio (assuming) the spread and aoe should be both reduced or increased. again just like rain of arrows.

so basically.....the top end of TR for bossing just got absolutely fucking shit on, and its much worse then what we could have hoped for (20% dmg reduction and less projectiles).

basically this skill will still be amazing for league starting and early mapping, but it will really struggle with taking down the end game bosses.
i'd be guessing you'll maximum be able to get 4 projectile overlap now. i dunno, on my current build i get like 7-8 because of my +aoe%, which is massive. so this essentially HALVES my damage.

it should cut majority of TR builds damage by about 35-40%, i'd guess.

TLDR: basically there is no way you can get more overlap, which was the crux of TRs top end damage

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The Hunter-influenced modifier that granted increased Damage with Poison has been removed. A new modifier that grants Chaos Damage over Time has been added in its place.

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Polita schrieb:

I do believe you're right (the notes give me the same impression), but maybe it won't be as bad as you calculated because of the "the base spread range of the spore pods has also been slightly lowered" part. Anyway, I hoped for a smaller nerf, but let's see how things will turn out.

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Remicaster1 schrieb:

To those who think TR is nerfed heavily:

Please watch this video first, then let me know your thoughts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfpvulutYaM&ab_channel=Remicaster

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xMustard schrieb:

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Remicaster1 schrieb:

To those who think TR is nerfed heavily:

Please watch this video first, then let me know your thoughts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfpvulutYaM&ab_channel=Remicaster

well first off you do still have +50% aoe (including dying sun) so you're getting more overlap then what you'll probably get with the new TR. and who knows what other stuff that is getting nerfed to come (cdotm craft, cluster jewels etc)
AND the tooltip doesn't show A HUGE VARIETY of +aoe so im guessing you actually have way more then what its showing.

but anyway, lets assume that the change of the base radius makes up for it.

with the nerf to its defensive aspect as well, it just won't be worth it to stand completely still for 10 seconds straight to ramp up your damage to that 5-7m. just use CA and get a consistent 2-3m while running around completely avoiding all danger.

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rembihnutur schrieb:

the only other concern i have now is how to make up for hardened scars nerf, particularly early league. i might just do tr again as a league starter because i want to try other builds but i need to be able to farm efficiently to fund said builds lol