[3.11] Aquarism's Ice Shot [All Content]

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domepro schrieb:
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AvesoM1 schrieb:
Hey there, guys! Thanks for the build, ice shot clear feels pretty damn good.
The problem is - I dont feel like I got enough dps for t16 metamoprhs to burst them down quickly. Also, I got 4.3k hp. Can you please look at my items and say how can I imporve my build? Esp. in terms of damage.
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Hmm, your gear looks better than mine at first glance, and I'm melting *most* metamorphs on T16.

DPSwise - I've found Mark of the Elder much better than Taming (coupled with a shaper ring that you have - up to 80% increased attack damage + 6-10% increased life)

How are your jewels in the tree - I have 21% life there and am currently on like 5.4k life with that.

You don't seem to have life on your quiver, but I'm not sure I'd give that bad boy up for like 60-70 base life (the really good ones like yours with an additional high life roll are 15+ ex last I checked)

also, from what I've read in this thread (on previous pages) - you need 7 frenzy charges for Ice Bite to be worth it, you seem to have only 6 (on your tree) - use cold pen or whatever the recommended skill is.

Also, not sure how assassins mark curse effect performs compared to additional barrage projectile - but most people opt to go with barrage additional projectile so I'm guessing it tops assassins mark curse effect.



Hey, @domepro, thank you for the tips!
So, I changed some items:
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Didnt tested the damage yet, but without the Taming resistances are very hard to cap. I removed some life+dps gems from the tree to put 2 +54 total res jewels and still they are imperfect! Fire is okay (82), but cold is (73) and lightning is (72). My hp is still siting at 4.3k, but maybe thats because Im still lvl 87. Anyway, thank you for your help!

UPD: DPS is tested, still low, dont know what else to do :C
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Great build. I really like the feel, the speed and the clear. Even with my lacking dps, I still have no big issues clearing red maps very quickly.

But here is the problem. My dps is pretty bad and not at all adequate for dealing with harder bosses. I have most of the essential gear and at the moment am missing mostly some flat dmg jewels and watcher's. The thing is, my dps is really low. Like, 1/60 of finished build. The character still is not finished, but I have most of dps gear on and I would expect to sit at 1/4 expected dps maybe, but not that low. I feel like I am not just missing some extra dmg on gear, an extra arrow and whatnot, but I am making some fundamental mistake somewhere. I even took off almost all gear off your PoB, all jewels and your dps was still more than 6 times that of mine (after I set my gems to 20/20, otherwise it is even worse). Would really appreciate if you were able to take a look and give me some pointers.

By the way, how do you get the extra crit chance? Mine sits at ~50% if I swap crit change gem for inspiration and the only thing I can reasonably add is some ~50% extra global crit chance and hatred crit watcher's. Doesn't seem possible to reach your crit levels with just that.

I keep comparing builds in PoB, but cannot see what would make such huge difference.

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aixone schrieb:
how do i use aspect of the cat?
Do people use aspect of the cat without farrul's fur? Because with farrul's it costs no mana.
I made that on std with aspect of the cat, is a pretty nice build thx for share.


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Riviar90 schrieb:
Great build. I really like the feel, the speed and the clear. Even with my lacking dps, I still have no big issues clearing red maps very quickly.

But here is the problem. My dps is pretty bad and not at all adequate for dealing with harder bosses. I have most of the essential gear and at the moment am missing mostly some flat dmg jewels and watcher's. The thing is, my dps is really low. Like, 1/60 of finished build. The character still is not finished, but I have most of dps gear on and I would expect to sit at 1/4 expected dps maybe, but not that low. I feel like I am not just missing some extra dmg on gear, an extra arrow and whatnot, but I am making some fundamental mistake somewhere. I even took off almost all gear off your PoB, all jewels and your dps was still more than 6 times that of mine (after I set my gems to 20/20, otherwise it is even worse). Would really appreciate if you were able to take a look and give me some pointers.

By the way, how do you get the extra crit chance? Mine sits at ~50% if I swap crit change gem for inspiration and the only thing I can reasonably add is some ~50% extra global crit chance and hatred crit watcher's. Doesn't seem possible to reach your crit levels with just that.

I keep comparing builds in PoB, but cannot see what would make such huge difference.

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Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/3XqamJ9H


You seem to be missing some crucial pieces in the build

1) You have damage on full life support on your barrage instead of cold pen support - this might be a huge loss on your ST dps (bosses got increased resistances in 3.9) - I used DOFL support before and my ST was complete garbage, try out cold pen first and see if it helps.

2) You're missing a quiver with +1 arrow and a helm enchant with +1 barrage arrow which should be a huge update

other things:

I've found that taming really really underperforms to what I was expecting. The bosses have huge HP pools, so you're probably not shocking them at all - the mark of the elder + ring with assassins mark on hit significantly outperforms the taming - but expect a lot of pain making up for the resists the taming gives you :(.

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I've checked out your tree too - apart from simply missing levels (82 is not that high tbh - you still don't have master fletcher because of that for instance) - you seem to have the build wrong. I'd suggest checking page 69 for a post from Slotmm where he explains a bit about this build and league and why pathing to extra jewel slots he feels is wasteful (he seems to be right imo) and also the reasoning against DOFL and stuff.

Also, green nightmare is pretty useless this league + this build combo - the recommended way to generate frenzy charges is via the quiver craft - green nightmare is on kill (bad for bosses), while the quiver enchant is on crit

With the number of arrows on barrage and my 48% crit I'm at 3 frenzy charges [still have a few levels to do to get more charges in my tree] in like 0.2 seconds against any boss - that's already 12% more damage + 12% more attack speed off the bat, which is A LOT since it's not *added* damage - with more charges I can see people melting everything in under 2 seconds - with my pretty shitty gear I melt most T16 metamorphs in like 5-6 seconds, conquerors on A7 are a joke and even sirius is easy if you get some chaos res.
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Hey, I've been having a whole lot of fun playing this build, currently easily clearing t16's and i've dumped heaps of currency into my gear. However, I still feel as though im lacking in single target DPS and struggling with siruis really badly. I don't know how to calculate proper DPS in PoB Either. Anyone have some suggestions? And could someone calculate my proper DPS for me? Would be really appreciated. I also like having ice shot with barrage support, so I don't really feel like using normal barrage. Just like the way it feels.

GEAR:
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Also have a couple quivers for sale if anybody's interested:
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(prices are negotiable)
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fLaMe303 schrieb:
Hey, I've been having a whole lot of fun playing this build, currently easily clearing t16's and i've dumped heaps of currency into my gear. However, I still feel as though im lacking in single target DPS and struggling with siruis really badly. I don't know how to calculate proper DPS in PoB Either. Anyone have some suggestions? And could someone calculate my proper DPS for me? Would be really appreciated. I also like having ice shot with barrage support, so I don't really feel like using normal barrage. Just like the way it feels.

GEAR:
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Also have a couple quivers for sale if anybody's interested:
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(prices are negotiable)

Barrage setup is like 30% more damage over barrage support ice shot. That alone should help with ST immensely.
Point blank should be second big source of increase of dmg that you missing.
Dual course setup shure look fun, but probably having extra 200-300 life will help survive and do more dmg on bosses.
Read long post from Slottm on page 69. You may find something helpful there.
What a beast build , clears fast , single target as well. For people who are struggling , go raider already . I cant seem to squeeze my HP past 5k atm , if anyone could share that would be awesome.


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domepro schrieb:
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Riviar90 schrieb:
Great build. I really like the feel, the speed and the clear. Even with my lacking dps, I still have no big issues clearing red maps very quickly.

But here is the problem. My dps is pretty bad and not at all adequate for dealing with harder bosses. I have most of the essential gear and at the moment am missing mostly some flat dmg jewels and watcher's. The thing is, my dps is really low. Like, 1/60 of finished build. The character still is not finished, but I have most of dps gear on and I would expect to sit at 1/4 expected dps maybe, but not that low. I feel like I am not just missing some extra dmg on gear, an extra arrow and whatnot, but I am making some fundamental mistake somewhere. I even took off almost all gear off your PoB, all jewels and your dps was still more than 6 times that of mine (after I set my gems to 20/20, otherwise it is even worse). Would really appreciate if you were able to take a look and give me some pointers.

By the way, how do you get the extra crit chance? Mine sits at ~50% if I swap crit change gem for inspiration and the only thing I can reasonably add is some ~50% extra global crit chance and hatred crit watcher's. Doesn't seem possible to reach your crit levels with just that.

I keep comparing builds in PoB, but cannot see what would make such huge difference.

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Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/3XqamJ9H


You seem to be missing some crucial pieces in the build

1) You have damage on full life support on your barrage instead of cold pen support - this might be a huge loss on your ST dps (bosses got increased resistances in 3.9) - I used DOFL support before and my ST was complete garbage, try out cold pen first and see if it helps.

2) You're missing a quiver with +1 arrow and a helm enchant with +1 barrage arrow which should be a huge update

other things:

I've found that taming really really underperforms to what I was expecting. The bosses have huge HP pools, so you're probably not shocking them at all - the mark of the elder + ring with assassins mark on hit significantly outperforms the taming - but expect a lot of pain making up for the resists the taming gives you :(.

EDIT:

I've checked out your tree too - apart from simply missing levels (82 is not that high tbh - you still don't have master fletcher because of that for instance) - you seem to have the build wrong. I'd suggest checking page 69 for a post from Slotmm where he explains a bit about this build and league and why pathing to extra jewel slots he feels is wasteful (he seems to be right imo) and also the reasoning against DOFL and stuff.

Also, green nightmare is pretty useless this league + this build combo - the recommended way to generate frenzy charges is via the quiver craft - green nightmare is on kill (bad for bosses), while the quiver enchant is on crit

With the number of arrows on barrage and my 48% crit I'm at 3 frenzy charges [still have a few levels to do to get more charges in my tree] in like 0.2 seconds against any boss - that's already 12% more damage + 12% more attack speed off the bat, which is A LOT since it's not *added* damage - with more charges I can see people melting everything in under 2 seconds - with my pretty shitty gear I melt most T16 metamorphs in like 5-6 seconds, conquerors on A7 are a joke and even sirius is easy if you get some chaos res.


Thanks a lot :) Good points. I already switched cold pen in at some point, but completely forgot about master fletcher lol. I was not looking at that part of the tree at all for a while.
I checked out page 69 and the changes Slotmm suggested seem really solid. I still do not see myself reaching similar levels of dps or hp, but hey, I will do my best and try. I just hope I won't feed it all my currency and still stay in limbo where I clear well but cannot boss correctly.
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Striphor schrieb:
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fLaMe303 schrieb:
Hey, I've been having a whole lot of fun playing this build, currently easily clearing t16's and i've dumped heaps of currency into my gear. However, I still feel as though im lacking in single target DPS and struggling with siruis really badly. I don't know how to calculate proper DPS in PoB Either. Anyone have some suggestions? And could someone calculate my proper DPS for me? Would be really appreciated. I also like having ice shot with barrage support, so I don't really feel like using normal barrage. Just like the way it feels.

GEAR:
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Also have a couple quivers for sale if anybody's interested:
Spoiler

(prices are negotiable)

Barrage setup is like 30% more damage over barrage support ice shot. That alone should help with ST immensely.
Point blank should be second big source of increase of dmg that you missing.
Dual course setup shure look fun, but probably having extra 200-300 life will help survive and do more dmg on bosses.
Read long post from Slottm on page 69. You may find something helpful there.

Alright, i just changed to normal barrage and holy moly it feels really good compared to when leveling ahahaha, However i dont understand how getting rid of my double curses will give me 200-300 more life? Next level i will spec into point blank too maybe

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