[3.13] HC/SC/SSF All Content Miner - Any Mine Skill - LL/CI - 12k ES w/ Videos!

Managed to save up some big bux recently (got awakened added melee, awakened minion damage, succor of the sinless, doctor, ball lightning enchant on a ilvl85 hubris - all in a matter of couple of hours), and am looking into transitioning to a proper 3-mod Watcher's Eye. The Clarity mod is obvious; for Hatred mod, I don't see why I would want any more crit than I already have, so I went with pen; as for the third, there's not that many good options on the market in the first place, not even looking at the price, but I guess I should be looking at pretty much any Discipline mods I could find, right? There are some Clarity-Hatred-Discipline Watchers on the market right now, but all of those are with the +crit hatred mod.
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LaplaceNoMa schrieb:
Managed to save up some big bux recently (got awakened added melee, awakened minion damage, succor of the sinless, doctor, ball lightning enchant on a ilvl85 hubris - all in a matter of couple of hours), and am looking into transitioning to a proper 3-mod Watcher's Eye. The Clarity mod is obvious; for Hatred mod, I don't see why I would want any more crit than I already have, so I went with pen; as for the third, there's not that many good options on the market in the first place, not even looking at the price, but I guess I should be looking at pretty much any Discipline mods I could find, right? There are some Clarity-Hatred-Discipline Watchers on the market right now, but all of those are with the +crit hatred mod.


Aye, the crit is bad. We already have 100% effective crit with good gear, its pretty worthless.

The best ones IMO are:

Critical strikes penetrate X resists under zealotry

X to crit multi under precision

After that, any of the discipline ones are decent, not amazing. The increased cold damage on hatred also isnt terrible.

I own a clarity, pen under hatred and cold damage under hatred one in standard, its pretty damn good as a jewel if you can find a similar one.
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BeerLeague schrieb:
Critical strikes penetrate X resists under zealotry


Oh, I've tried finding a way to fit that in without Prism Guardian, but I couldn't. It's just too crap for the 50% mana it is reserving. I found Aspect of the Spider a much better option, all things considered. Maybe with PG Zealotry can be incorporated into the mine LL build, but without it it's definitely something that should be dropped...

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BeerLeague schrieb:
X to crit multi under precision

After that, any of the discipline ones are decent, not amazing. The increased cold damage on hatred also isnt terrible.


Completely forgot about the multi one, sounds good. I just want to try pushing 100 on this character without going with the pure breachstones, so any extra tankiness from the Disc mods would be very, very welcome.
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LaplaceNoMa schrieb:
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BeerLeague schrieb:
Critical strikes penetrate X resists under zealotry


Oh, I've tried finding a way to fit that in without Prism Guardian, but I couldn't. It's just too crap for the 50% mana it is reserving. I found Aspect of the Spider a much better option, all things considered. Maybe with PG Zealotry can be incorporated into the mine LL build, but without it it's definitely something that should be dropped...

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BeerLeague schrieb:
X to crit multi under precision

After that, any of the discipline ones are decent, not amazing. The increased cold damage on hatred also isnt terrible.


Completely forgot about the multi one, sounds good. I just want to try pushing 100 on this character without going with the pure breachstones, so any extra tankiness from the Disc mods would be very, very welcome.


Ah got cha, figured you were using PG with hatred in the setup. spider is much better than zealtory if not running it.
Hey, have a new doubt.

What about use in weapons gem setup, one with

CWDT + Steelskin/IC + Frost bomb

and another with

CWDT + ??? + Frostbite/Cold snap/Frost wall

EDIT: I forgot there is no point to have two CWDT with IC-Steelskin, but i'm interested to know if anyway would be useful to cast two of these cold skills when we receive damage.

And my second doubt, is: If I can get a gloves with Enfeeble/Temporal Chains on hit, would be better to replace Blasphemy+Enfeeble and use another aura? I, for example, buy one with Temporal Chains + Despair on hit (double corrupt), but I forgot that I can only use ONE curse at a time (too many mechanics sometimes confuse me LOL), so I'll see what I do with them because I don't know how double curse works in gameplay if I don't have the Whispers of Doom node.
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Thinking of trying this bad boy out, have about 120ex to spare and this looks super fun map clearing and single damage isn't so bad compared to IS while being a bit beefy since CoC tends to be kinda squishy unless you got super tanky which makes there single target balls.

Would ideal route be to get +2 shavs/ helm icicle dmg 40% enchant with res and high ES/ shaper elder ring combo/machine w/ crit enchant/ Boots with high ES , res/prism for the extra DPS.

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NGXIS schrieb:
Hey, have a new doubt.

What about use in weapons gem setup, one with

CWDT + Steelskin/IC + Frost bomb

and another with

CWDT + ??? + Frostbite/Cold snap/Frost wall

EDIT: I forgot there is no point to have two CWDT with IC-Steelskin, but i'm interested to know if anyway would be useful to cast two of these cold skills when we receive damage.

And my second doubt, is: If I can get a gloves with Enfeeble/Temporal Chains on hit, would be better to replace Blasphemy+Enfeeble and use another aura? I, for example, buy one with Temporal Chains + Despair on hit (double corrupt), but I forgot that I can only use ONE curse at a time (too many mechanics sometimes confuse me LOL), so I'll see what I do with them because I don't know how double curse works in gameplay if I don't have the Whispers of Doom node.


The first setup will work, I’ve used it before it isn’t terrible.

As for Curse on hit, we don’t hit, so it doesn’t work. Doesn’t apply with mines.
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Bob123aka schrieb:
Thinking of trying this bad boy out, have about 120ex to spare and this looks super fun map clearing and single damage isn't so bad compared to IS while being a bit beefy since CoC tends to be kinda squishy unless you got super tanky which makes there single target balls.

Would ideal route be to get +2 shavs/ helm icicle dmg 40% enchant with res and high ES/ shaper elder ring combo/machine w/ crit enchant/ Boots with high ES , res/prism for the extra DPS.



That is correct, the crit multi hell is better though.
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BeerLeague schrieb:
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NGXIS schrieb:
Hey, have a new doubt.

What about use in weapons gem setup, one with

CWDT + Steelskin/IC + Frost bomb

and another with

CWDT + ??? + Frostbite/Cold snap/Frost wall

EDIT: I forgot there is no point to have two CWDT with IC-Steelskin, but i'm interested to know if anyway would be useful to cast two of these cold skills when we receive damage.

And my second doubt, is: If I can get a gloves with Enfeeble/Temporal Chains on hit, would be better to replace Blasphemy+Enfeeble and use another aura? I, for example, buy one with Temporal Chains + Despair on hit (double corrupt), but I forgot that I can only use ONE curse at a time (too many mechanics sometimes confuse me LOL), so I'll see what I do with them because I don't know how double curse works in gameplay if I don't have the Whispers of Doom node.


The first setup will work, I’ve used it before it isn’t terrible.

As for Curse on hit, we don’t hit, so it doesn’t work. Doesn’t apply with mines.


Mines doesn't count as hit? Holy... I'll never understand this game.

So, what you think about Frostbite, Cold snap, Frost wall? Can be useful for this build?
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So, 100% you will need pierce to clear.

Depending on gear, the best setup should be:

Icicle, trap and mine, swift, controlled destruction, cold pen, and pierce that get swapped out for hypo or inspiration or empower or ele focus or awakened cold.


So basically when I have gggbbr, I am force to swap in between Awakened cold pen and Pierce and keep Empower there all the time.

Had a question about acedency, cant see yours in yr profile and was wondering if you prefer keeping Born in the Shadows with the lost of Sand and Stone from the Prism gardian set up.
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