[3.8] CI Mjolner CoC Ball Lightning Assassin - up to 6M Shaper DPS, 11k ES, 5k+ ES Recovery/s

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faytte schrieb:

So for anyone not wanting to shell out for unnatural instinct, is really does not seem worth while in this build. If you build toward Retribution (which most passive builds I've seen include) then instead of spending the three passive points to move from Harrier to unlock the Unnatural Instinct gem slot, you can instead just buy the 3 Green nodes south of Retribution (two 'Attack and Cast Speed, Accuracy' nodes and the large 'Precision' node).

By comparison:
Unnatural Instinct would net you:
5 Int
5 Dex
14% spell damage
13% attack speed
24% accuracy
9% movement speed

Buying the three suggested nodes above gives you:
20 Dex
22% accuracy
12% attack speed
4% movement speed

1% attack speed does not change anything in PoB, and the 2% difference in accuracy does not seem to alter anything (semi made up bu the extra 30 accuracy the extra dex gives in the nodes)

4 exalts does not seem like a wise purchase for 14% spell damage and 5% movement speed.

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blingi schrieb:

As a general question, is it really worth the 4 points to get retribution?
I don't know how good the 2 10% aoe nodes I'd have to take to get it are and it kind of seems like a waste.
Currently using 3 points in arcane swiftness instead since it's 9% more dps (3% per point) which seems like a decent return.

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metamo666 schrieb:

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blingi schrieb:

As a general question, is it really worth the 4 points to get retribution?
I don't know how good the 2 10% aoe nodes I'd have to take to get it are and it kind of seems like a waste.
Currently using 3 points in arcane swiftness instead since it's 9% more dps (3% per point) which seems like a decent return.

The wiki has this calculator linked if you want to see if its worth it(File menu - Make a copy, then just fill in):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Rz9F8-PfsijZ_kNUNWURiRQabMCRbuaVGaLTie_oLDw/edit?usp=sharing

Probably will add slightly less damage because this likely considers the optimal case(so the ball is cast the farthest away from the mob).

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Frieske1 schrieb:

Just wondering if it's worth running a second Awakened Elemental Focus support on the Mjolnir rather than Energy Leech - anyone tested and noticed a drop in survivability?

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metamo666 schrieb:

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Frieske1 schrieb:

Just wondering if it's worth running a second Awakened Elemental Focus support on the Mjolnir rather than Energy Leech - anyone tested and noticed a drop in survivability?

You should only use energy leech until you have it on the tree(Soul thief/Light eater). After that it doesn't really do much, especially with the thread of hope setup.

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blingi schrieb:

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faytte schrieb:

So for anyone not wanting to shell out for unnatural instinct, is really does not seem worth while in this build. If you build toward Retribution (which most passive builds I've seen include) then instead of spending the three passive points to move from Harrier to unlock the Unnatural Instinct gem slot, you can instead just buy the 3 Green nodes south of Retribution (two 'Attack and Cast Speed, Accuracy' nodes and the large 'Precision' node).

By comparison:
Unnatural Instinct would net you:
5 Int
5 Dex
14% spell damage
13% attack speed
24% accuracy
9% movement speed

Buying the three suggested nodes above gives you:
20 Dex
22% accuracy
12% attack speed
4% movement speed

1% attack speed does not change anything in PoB, and the 2% difference in accuracy does not seem to alter anything (semi made up bu the extra 30 accuracy the extra dex gives in the nodes)

4 exalts does not seem like a wise purchase for 14% spell damage and 5% movement speed.

As a general question, is it really worth the 4 points to get retribution?
I don't know how good the 2 10% aoe nodes I'd have to take to get it are and it kind of seems like a waste.
Currently using 3 points in arcane swiftness instead since it's 9% more dps (3% per point) which seems like a decent return.