[3.10] Gryph's Volatile Dead Necromancer || Fun, Medium Budget, Tanky, Millions of DPS

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xenochaos1 schrieb:

the thing is, I will probably use Glancing blows with a lethal pride jewel, so I do not really really need to bone offering. (i will get max block with it easily wihtout bone offering)

beside bone offering, is elementalist or necranmancer stronger?

Are you going to be able to cap your spell block too? Bone Offering also gives a MASSIVE amount of life gained on block. 35% to both Attack and Spell Block is absurd (with a level 21 Offering and increased offering effect chest) 644 life gained on block for level 21. Also max block with no damage taken is naturally preferable to max block and take 50% :P

Also, if you're using lethal pride, you won't be able to use Glorious Vanity for Corrupted Soul. Can use Soul Tether belt then though as Ele gets leech in ascendancy.

https://pastebin.com/EP1SeNT8

Level 98 necro -> 113k Avg Hit with Martyr+Spell Cascade

Same witch, same gear/tree/etc... as an Elementalist with Mastermind of Discord...

Also 113k. These don't take into account the damage boost Elementalist gets per summoned golem or the 15% increased damage taken that Necro get from Corpse Pact so make of that what you will.

I'm using the spellslinger setup, but it always casts VD before Desecrate, so the first cast is always a dud, which makes things a little clunky.

Is there any way to change the cast order with Spellslinger?

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Garulf161 schrieb:

I'm using the spellslinger setup, but it always casts VD before Desecrate, so the first cast is always a dud, which makes things a little clunky.

Is there any way to change the cast order with Spellslinger?

It's only ever the first cast, if you run -> click -> run but keep a short enough distance between casts you'll basically just wade through the map with a stream a balls following after you. also monsters leave corpses to consume.

Okay, I almost made it work. You can check my profile, nothing unusual except couple things.
Praxis to make my mana almost infinite, MoM just to mitigate some one-shot damage (maybe unnecessary, not sure yet), Ghost Reaver passive to make ES Leech fast as possible, ES pool for at least ~2.5-3k. And finally, I've bought Wathcer's eye (12ex btw) that made my ES always full. After all, I'm lack of passive points and not sure how to deal with it better.
So I have life per hit and instant HP flask to heal myself and everything else heals my ES shield that I'm gonna increase up to 4k. Not highest damage you could see, but I was trying to make it live, DPS is enough tho.

Also tried Glorious Vanity before Wathcer's eye and it feels "meeeh".

If you have any suggestions, I'd like to try.

P.S. It's not finished yet and will be improved (I hope)

Current PoB: https://pastebin.com/zEhCFXtN

@Gryphenprey

First of all thanks for making and updating this build it's been a huge fun since meta league which provides me the wealthiest times of all. I also wanted to continue playing this even though the Spirit Offering nerf and of course whenever I switched Scold's at level 65 I realized it's impossible to sustain even if I take Ghost Reaver and light eater cluster(with life leech on fire dmg amu).
I immediately looked at you profile that's when I switched to slinger setup. But now as I see you were back in using Scold's, mu question is can you sustain it without any problem since Delirium mobs are hitting like a truck, even now I'm having difficulties doing the content.

Thanks in advance.

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BlackRockSoul schrieb:

Okay, I almost made it work. You can check my profile, nothing unusual except couple things.
Praxis to make my mana almost infinite, MoM just to mitigate some one-shot damage (maybe unnecessary, not sure yet), Ghost Reaver passive to make ES Leech fast as possible, ES pool for at least ~2.5-3k. And finally, I've bought Wathcer's eye (12ex btw) that made my ES always full. After all, I'm lack of passive points and not sure how to deal with it better.
So I have life per hit and instant HP flask to heal myself and everything else heals my ES shield that I'm gonna increase up to 4k. Not highest damage you could see, but I was trying to make it live, DPS is enough tho.

Also tried Glorious Vanity before Wathcer's eye and it feels "meeeh".

If you have any suggestions, I'd like to try.

P.S. It's not finished yet and will be improved (I hope)

Current PoB: https://pastebin.com/zEhCFXtN

Yeah the ES on hit Watcher's Eye just makes everything a lot simpler. I wanted to make sure that it's possible to run WITHOUT it for budget reasons. Being gated behind a 10ex+ purchase to run a build is a bit of a no go for me.

I really like Corrupted Soul just because of the split between life and ES. We have some excellent life recovery mechanics and it allows us to make full use of them. Additionally it makes investment into ES nodes on the tree sub-optimal because of how it works mechanically and due to the massive ES boost it provides. This is a positive as it let's us invest more into life/damage/new cluster jewels. But do what works for you I say. ES on hit is probably good enough on its own.

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haindeve schrieb:

@Gryphenprey

First of all thanks for making and updating this build it's been a huge fun since meta league which provides me the wealthiest times of all. I also wanted to continue playing this even though the Spirit Offering nerf and of course whenever I switched Scold's at level 65 I realized it's impossible to sustain even if I take Ghost Reaver and light eater cluster(with life leech on fire dmg amu).
I immediately looked at you profile that's when I switched to slinger setup. But now as I see you were back in using Scold's, mu question is can you sustain it without any problem since Delirium mobs are hitting like a truck, even now I'm having difficulties doing the content.

Thanks in advance.

I only just swapped to Scold's as an experiment (wanted to see if I could) and it's working fine (barely). I basically just need to pay close attention to my life because I do not have much time before scold's starts deleting me between packs.

As for Delirium it feels great to be in constant motion. Until I stop and get one-shot. Rofl. Overall though it's a nice boost from spellslinging I just have to be more attentive until I get more ES. Getting the Martyr Staff definitely helps as well to make it worthwhile for a nice DPS boost.

Worth noting, Blade Blast on CWDT applies Unnerve for 4 seconds. I'll be trying to fit this in somewhere for sure.

I tried searching and couldn't find the answer. Maybe I'm just bad at searching in these forums.

But... why is desecrate only level 1? Isn't Volatile Damage proportional to the corpse HP? Lvl 1 desecrate only generates lv 41 corpses.

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Garulf161 schrieb:

I tried searching and couldn't find the answer. Maybe I'm just bad at searching in these forums.

But... why is desecrate only level 1? Isn't Volatile Damage proportional to the corpse HP? Lvl 1 desecrate only generates lv 41 corpses.

Laziness. Should be level 7 at max.

Also, only the initial "explosion" - when the ball is created, gets scaled by corpse life. The homing Volatiles are unaffected by this.

Hi, I somehow managed to get to the state when I can survive in maps.
But can't find a way of how to keep my ES up.
Also I'm only able to run 2 auras (Zealotry and Discipline), dont have enough mana if I put Herald up :)
Can you please check my profile?
Any insights really appreciated, coz I really wanted to try this.

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jaksna schrieb:

Hi, I somehow managed to get to the state when I can survive in maps.
But can't find a way of how to keep my ES up.
Also I'm only able to run 2 auras (Zealotry and Discipline), dont have enough mana if I put Herald up :)
Can you please check my profile?
Any insights really appreciated, coz I really wanted to try this.

Just need more ES to boost ES recovery from leech. It's based on max ES so more ES=more better. Also, don't feel bad about not sutaining your ES, I am also not sustaining my ES right now, but the leech is helping mitigate the damage a lot.

Note for everyone, you can sustain mana pretty well with Mind Over Matter as long as you don't take Corpse Pact. it's a DPS loss, but it's a lot smoother.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWT7a94EGB0&feature=youtu.be

New video showcasing this method of sustain. Works really well, though it is unfortunate that Corpse Pact cannot be used yet.