[Outdated] Ultimate EDTrickster [2M dps - UNKILLABLE]

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kuriisu schrieb:
hmm so did some experimenting and it would seem that large cluster jewels like
are actually quite amazing (it's important they have only 8 added passive skills). they're more dps point per point than Atrophy pathing and you also get additional benefits rather then just straight damage and another super big thing is that 4 points in that cluser jewel almost rival 6 points from atrophy, freeing up 2 points for you to do whatever (either continue into middle jewel, for free basically) or take all 6 dps nodes in the jewel resulting in like 3-4% more dmg dps then atrophy


So, for 6 points (same as atrophy) we're getting almost as much damage per point. It's just not worth investing 6 points in it. But you're saying that for 1 more points we're getting more damage per point?

Interesting. I'll try out a few large cluster jewels to see what's the absolute best, see if we can get much better. I'll keep an eye on this, thanks.

Also, can we roll the 2 socket mod on cluster jewels that add only 8 nodes? If yes, then we got an easy winner... But these are rare jewels.
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Darkxellmc schrieb:
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kuriisu schrieb:
hmm so did some experimenting and it would seem that large cluster jewels like
are actually quite amazing (it's important they have only 8 added passive skills). they're more dps point per point than Atrophy pathing and you also get additional benefits rather then just straight damage and another super big thing is that 4 points in that cluser jewel almost rival 6 points from atrophy, freeing up 2 points for you to do whatever (either continue into middle jewel, for free basically) or take all 6 dps nodes in the jewel resulting in like 3-4% more dmg dps then atrophy


So, for 6 points (same as atrophy) we're getting almost as much damage per point. It's just not worth investing 6 points in it. But you're saying that for 1 more points we're getting more damage per point?

Interesting. I'll try out a few large cluster jewels to see what's the absolute best, see if we can get much better. I'll keep an eye on this, thanks.

Also, can we roll the 2 socket mod on cluster jewels that add only 8 nodes? If yes, then we got an easy winner... But these are rare jewels.


4 points is slightly less than atrophy
6 points is 3-4% more than atrophy (atrophy is also 6 points) so more dmg point per point than atrophy

not sure if we can get 2 socket mods on 8 node jewel, never seen it, I would assume it should be possible


Oh and in middle size jewel you REALLY want only 4 passives, ends up costing less points to get to small jewel.

https://gyazo.com/d892acd4a74eed8c49079ebaf652aded

on 6 passives middle you spend 5 points getting both notables + small jewel
on 4 passives it's 4 points

in general what i noticed is that you really want as small of a number as you can get, ends up costing less points to get notables and to continue into next cluster
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kuriisu schrieb:

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Thanks!

Alright, yeah that looks alright.
This large cluster jewel costs you 5 points tho, not 4. So I guess it's really similar to atrophy? I think I won't bother updating the guide for it tbh. It's technically an upgrade with very high end jewels, but the difference is quite minor.

I checked, it's not possible to roll 2 jewel sockets on 8 point jewels. I guess there's a limit to the amount of notables/total we can have on these, on top of the usual mod restrictions.

For the small jewel, you're right it's much better to get a 2 nodes one. For the medium one, it doesn't matter as much as 4% chaos multi is already pretty good for a single point, but is still better.

Thanks, gl hf! ^^
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Darkxellmc schrieb:
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kuriisu schrieb:

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Thanks!

Alright, yeah that looks alright.
This large cluster jewel costs you 5 points tho, not 4. So I guess it's really similar to atrophy? I think I won't bother updating the guide for it tbh. It's technically an upgrade with very high end jewels, but the difference is quite minor.

I checked, it's not possible to roll 2 jewel sockets on 8 point jewels. I guess there's a limit to the amount of notables/total we can have on these, on top of the usual mod restrictions.

For the small jewel, you're right it's much better to get a 2 nodes one. For the medium one, it doesn't matter as much as 4% chaos multi is already pretty good for a single point, but is still better.

Thanks, gl hf! ^^


They go up to 5% multi, but yeah, not to bad just can be awkward with points sub lvl 93-94 unless you skip other jewels
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kuriisu schrieb:

They go up to 5% multi, but yeah, not to bad just can be awkward with points sub lvl 93-94 unless you skip other jewels


Yep, the standard DoT ones go to 4%. The chaos DoT ones have 5% like this damage oriented one.


I was trying to understand what you were talking about with the large cluster being only 6 points. To get all 3 notables and the socket on it you have to use 7 points. So, are you using the 7 or using 5 and only taking 2 notables?

I'd love to see a PoB of yours with the Atrophy wheel, and then the exact same one with your large cluster inserted so I can see for the exact same config and pts the difference you are telling us about. Can you put those pastebins here?
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ZeroCloud schrieb:
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kuriisu schrieb:

They go up to 5% multi, but yeah, not to bad just can be awkward with points sub lvl 93-94 unless you skip other jewels


Yep, the standard DoT ones go to 4%. The chaos DoT ones have 5% like this damage oriented one.


I was trying to understand what you were talking about with the large cluster being only 6 points. To get all 3 notables and the socket on it you have to use 7 points. So, are you using the 7 or using 5 and only taking 2 notables?

I'd love to see a PoB of yours with the Atrophy wheel, and then the exact same one with your large cluster inserted so I can see for the exact same config and pts the difference you are telling us about. Can you put those pastebins here?

Using 5 right now cause I'm short on points so it ends up being slightly less dmg than atrophy but it frees up 1 skill point

Investing 7 points is still more worth then atrophy, 4% MORE dmg for 1 skill point is defo worth, issue is having enough points
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Could I get some gearing advice? my budget currently is about 1EX (the league isnt very nice to me)
Im currently trying to 6-Link my Chest
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Urganot schrieb:
Could I get some gearing advice? my budget currently is about 1EX (the league isnt very nice to me)
Im currently trying to 6-Link my Chest

First advice: stop at 5L chest
Then make a bow, 6L bow base is cheap. Total crafting should be about 4.5ex (4 ex crafts and alt spam + base)
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Urganot schrieb:
Could I get some gearing advice? my budget currently is about 1EX (the league isnt very nice to me)
Im currently trying to 6-Link my Chest


don't bother 6linking a kintsugi. Just 4 link it and put blight, doesn't matter. Also don't throw your fuses at your cane, buy a 6l cane directly when you have enough exalts (3, it's cheaper).
I hope you're not in red maps yet, that'd feel bad with your current gear. Get a witchfire brew, and farm maps till you drop enough stuff to buy a 6l cane. Shouldn't take long,n I'm sad for you you got to 85 with 1ex total. Worst case scenario, start doing the chaos recepie in yellow maps, it's easy with deliriums dropping so much jewelry.
hi there , first thx for that build I really like ti play it ,

Well in another hand it doesn't feel that tanky ! I die a lot sometimes , psecialy while playing in multi ( I know ED is not worse in multi )

any advise will be more than welcome =D

GLF HF <3

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