[3.21] Vatinas' Spiders + HoP Guardian - CI, 70K armour, 1400 ES on block, millions of DPS

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Wermine schrieb:

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AndyLovesHisBge schrieb:

And am I correct in that quality is meaningless for the Darkness Enthroned belt?

Correct. Jewels inside the belt don't get anything from belt quality.

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AndyLovesHisBge schrieb:

I dropped Spirt Offering because I found I was never casting it. So any up time I get on a Feeding Frenzy should be better for me.

If you are casting Flesh Offering fairly regularly, you probably don't need to change.

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AndyLovesHisBge schrieb:

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Wermine schrieb:

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AndyLovesHisBge schrieb:

And am I correct in that quality is meaningless for the Darkness Enthroned belt?

Correct. Jewels inside the belt don't get anything from belt quality.

excellent thanks! What type of quality should we use on the rings?

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Oxygenjunkie schrieb:

Is adding vitality worth compared to holyrelic/feeding frenzy setup? Tt seems you can't have it both at the same time.

Or is it all about dumpin discord artisan on tree and getting more efficient nodes because 233 energy regen doesn't seem worth to me.

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AndyLovesHisBge schrieb:

I don't use Discord Artisan so I can't speak to that. I am using the following mana reservation with out Discord Artisan.

Clarity, HOP, Discipline, Dread Banner, Blood and Stone, and Determination

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AndyLovesHisBge schrieb:

Today I am going to be play testing the following

1) Removing Maim from the Fortify setup and dumping Rallying Cry and Spirit Offering (since I rarely cast them)

2) Adding in the following 3 links in place of those 3

CWDT - Summon Holy Relic - Feeding Frenzy



I ran a couple of T16 maps already and it seemed smooth. While it is far from 100% up time on feeding frenzy (since the relic dies a lot), I think I am getting a lot more uptime than I was on either Rallying Cry/Spirit Offering due to my play style.

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AndyLovesHisBge schrieb:

Which is better for the build?

A 20/20 Divergent HOP

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A 21/23 regular HOP

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dextrelame schrieb:

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But as I said, I doubt you need to do that. The Awakened Multistrike and +1 to Chest more than make up for the slightly low impale chance.

Low impale chance ? i dont know how you calculate that.
-> Rotten claws : 12% chance impale all minions (it may seem low but with that i have 100% impale chance for hop, and the increased damage is not bad)
-> Divergent Dread banner 25% chance impale all minions
-> Anomalous impale : 50% chance for Hop
=> 50% increased effect of aura, boost chance to impale for dread banner, on my pob hop have 100% chance to impale(12+25+50+13)

The best is to try some setup... For me i see 5 big increase for damage :
- Optimisation for all gem and armour +1 all or + 2 duration => Hop 28
- Flesh and stone link to maim
- Impale chance (impale + large cluster + dread banner) => 100% hop and spider 50%.
- Awakened multistrike (good synergy with impale)
- When high level, optimisation for the skill tree : I have 341% all minions damage without hubris. (~520% for Hop)

And after that the damage on endgame boss is a joke, and i'm not speaking about boss map T15/16, sometime i dont have the time to use prey and spirit/flesh offering before the boss die.

And Hop does not have big visual effect / attack speed like spider but i'll try some boss with only Hop and the damage is huge. For example kitava T15 is insta phase only with hop.

My current PoB :
https://pastebin.com/MjFLvxSQ
=> Use bloodlust instead of awakened multistrike for lower budget
=> If you dont have shield corrupt with 5% spell block take arcane guarding
=> Arcane focus is a good alternative if you need ES
=> Energised armour instead of my corrupted blood immunity jewel for more armour.
=> For ALL stop using discord artisan you waste skill point and take helm with 30% hop reservation / OR take discord artisan and helm with +1 sentinel and loose 30-50% minions damage in the skill tree

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Which Watcher do you think is best to start ??
Thinking of course, at a low cost and everything ..
I currently have + armor with Determination