[3.13] TOXIC RAIN + HERALD OF AGONY Pathfinder Build (6-8K life) (UBER ELDER done!) +VIDEO GUIDE!

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miasma23 schrieb:

Scaling Dot and using two Praxis rings and 58 mana regen per sec. I can spam TR with ease. Red Elder fight was deathless, however, i did not manage to save Shaper. must get more DPS.

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Quickfade schrieb:

Also do you reckon the 80% loss in chaos damage from cherrubim's would be massive? Not sure if the extra life from kaom's outweighs the damage loss.

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DotsandDashes schrieb:

I've been only casually playing this league because I'm also playing WoW so I just got to maps on this character. How are you managing mana? I have mana leech on my neck and I picked up a mana leech node and I can still burn mana in couple seconds at most so I'm chugging mana pots like crazy

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peetrscz schrieb:

I also wonder why you guys are going for that insane HP pools? Why? I'm running round 5.4k life and it's more than enough (1 Bubbling life flask is all you need).

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xMustard schrieb:

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miasma23 schrieb:

Scaling Dot and using two Praxis rings and 58 mana regen per sec. I can spam TR with ease. Red Elder fight was deathless, however, i did not manage to save Shaper. must get more DPS.

same issue with my build, which is focusing purely on the pod DoT. the damage just isn't there to save shaper. kind of a shame DoTs will always suffer from this downside

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peetrscz schrieb:

I'm playing similar build (almost the same tree, but bit different approach).

I did not go for Quillrain as it is imho not worth it. Your poison damage will suck big time with the bow and the APS are just not needed (and you'll also have to solve the OOM problem). I use Lioneye's Glare (low damage now, trying to 6L high damage one) and it's just about perfect. I just shoot once into every pack and it dies before I run past it (aka they die before they get out of my Despair.
Damage is great with quilrain, clearing red maps all day with ease. Also usually one shot everything.

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Angry_Roleplayer schrieb:

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xMustard schrieb:

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miasma23 schrieb:

Scaling Dot and using two Praxis rings and 58 mana regen per sec. I can spam TR with ease. Red Elder fight was deathless, however, i did not manage to save Shaper. must get more DPS.

same issue with my build, which is focusing purely on the pod DoT. the damage just isn't there to save shaper. kind of a shame DoTs will always suffer from this downside

And this is EXACTLY what i stated in my original post and when i compared CA to Toxic Rain as well. DoTs work really well for trash mobs, because there is enough damage. But DoT in TR is still super weak compared to CA f=or example. When you go to high tiers, red maps, and more specifically shaper and uber elder: this where DoT is lacking on TR and along with high mana costs on Quill Rain it becomes lackluster. At this point you need to start stacking poison and explosions as well as smoother mana management.

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Icemasta schrieb:

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Quickfade schrieb:

Also do you reckon the 80% loss in chaos damage from cherrubim's would be massive? Not sure if the extra life from kaom's outweighs the damage loss.

It's not that bad, because we're already scaling it so hard. You lose about 6k damage per pod per second. So 25x6000 ~150k dps, not a huge loss for hte huge gain in survival.