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I just killed shaper and then uber elder with gmp no problem. Will post some vids later to show what I used. Animate guardian also survived both encounters - again no problem (in fact he has never died). A lot of people seem to be doubting the power of the original build and feeling like you 'have' to add spiders for dps but I can assure everyone it is still very strong and capable just with solar guards and you don't need to switch any gems.

The only real changes I have made from the original build are ...

1.craft the +1 min endurance charges on all jewellery
2.put storm brand set up in shield
3.put increase duration in immortal call set up in boots
4.use a basalt flask instead of jade
5.have 1 source of blind, taunt, hinder across abyss jewels


for uber elder I also make these changes
1.take out unending hunger jewel for another abyss jewel
2.replace bleed life flask with remove freeze life flask
3.replace remove curse quicksilver with movement quicksilver

And thats it! Hope everyone enjoys!

I could try uber elder again but think its time to run some elder glaciers ...

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kayella schrieb:

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nechrophagy schrieb:

Do i just have to move slower or learn how to manage better when playing with enhanced vaal, I'm not able to speed run low maps like I could with solar guards, if i port into middle of mobs, vaal kill them, but I keep dying first before i can hit flask or teleport anyway, should I simply be moving slower and spamming less or is there more method to the madness, still a sick build, definitely kills boss quicker, if i dont do something stupid to die first

Are you using Spiders? The Vaal are really just for boss killing. The spiders should take care of the map clearing duties.

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I've just completed testing of a new variant of the build: Vaal + Frost + Phantasms.
It uses 2 Enhanced Vaal for boss killing and 2 Frost Sentinels linked with Phantasms to safely clear maps. Naturally, it's not as powerful as using 4 Enhanced Vaal, but there is no issue of slow clear speed or having to resummon Spiders all the time. Additionally, with 13 minions shooting cold damage projectiles, it freezes/shatters most monsters in a map. I really enjoy using this variant and would consider it my default build.

Dark Forest mapping demo: https://youtu.be/zRwZD34ZTcA

Depth 284 delve demo: https://youtu.be/nhxiAa1Y_u4

Uber Elder demo: https://youtu.be/8L4lwckOFNM

PoB: https://pastebin.com/2EJzii64

Gear:

Spoiler

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kayella schrieb:

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nechrophagy schrieb:

Do i just have to move slower or learn how to manage better when playing with enhanced vaal, I'm not able to speed run low maps like I could with solar guards, if i port into middle of mobs, vaal kill them, but I keep dying first before i can hit flask or teleport anyway, should I simply be moving slower and spamming less or is there more method to the madness, still a sick build, definitely kills boss quicker, if i dont do something stupid to die first

Are you using Spiders? The Vaal are really just for boss killing. The spiders should take care of the map clearing duties.

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I've just completed testing of a new variant of the build: Vaal + Frost + Phantasms.
It uses 2 Enhanced Vaal for boss killing and 2 Frost Sentinels linked with Phantasms to safely clear maps. Naturally, it's not as powerful as using 4 Enhanced Vaal, but there is no issue of slow clear speed or having to resummon Spiders all the time. Additionally, with 13 minions shooting cold damage projectiles, it freezes/shatters most monsters in a map. I really enjoy using this variant and would consider it my default build.

Dark Forest mapping demo: https://youtu.be/zRwZD34ZTcA

Depth 284 delve demo: https://youtu.be/nhxiAa1Y_u4

Uber Elder demo: https://youtu.be/8L4lwckOFNM

PoB: https://pastebin.com/2EJzii64

Gear:

Spoiler

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nechrophagy schrieb:

Where would I socket the hypothermia support, or is it shown in the videos too?

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Jaeger88 schrieb:

I see that you skip some of the minion +DMG nodes in the passive tree - is it any particular reason for this? :)

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Mantikera schrieb:

That's interesting, what's your thoughts about loosing animate guardian for the Vaal Fallen ?

It's worth it ?

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gromkins schrieb:

What is the best FE gem set up for U elder? Having trouble finding it in this giant thread.