[3.7] Ahfack's Crimson Cyclone | Shaper FULL Life Kill Vid | 100% Pure Phys | All Content | PoBs

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kodosderhenker schrieb:

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Froglure schrieb:

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kodosderhenker schrieb:

at the moment I am just playing around in PoB but Flesh and Stone + Maim seems to be better than Pride

F&S with maim linked is 30% increased damage taken vs the 19% (39% after 4s) from pride, but you have to be in bloodstance and lose the range from Blood & Sand.

long story short: pride, flesh & stone + maim, blood and sand, dread banner maybe?

Flesh and Stone + Blood and Sand =
Sand: more Area of Effect + blind for nearby + damage reduction for ranged enemies
Blood: more Area Damage + maim for nearby enemies (so it can be replaced by something else in the main link) + 30% increased damage taken

blood and sand is a given but im not so sure about flesh and stone.
if i understand bex correctly F&S+maim is 34% more damage in blood stance and no boost in sand. so we would have

flesh and stone
mapping: no increased damage
bosses: 34%

pride
mapping: 19% more
bosses: 39% more

i dont run maim in my 6-link, instead i use melee physical damage since it doesnt need to proc and its a lot more damage in PoB.

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kodosderhenker schrieb:

at least it is a lot more flexible compared to pride with less mana reserved and more damage in blood stance

true

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kodosderhenker schrieb:

For now I would say:
Vulnerability/Blasphemy + Flesh & Stone/Maim + Blood & Sand + Dread Banner
(83% reserved without Enlighten and melee physical support instead im Miam linked to Cyclone)

still testing but its hard to get a feel whats better when everything dies so fast.

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kodosderhenker schrieb:

PS:
Something different, are the Impale nodes on the tree really worth it?
Especially if Impale Support is not always used anyway

Replacing them by Red Storm Martial Experience (and taking the Axe Damage nodes by Hatched Master) and always using Pulverise as 6th Link seems to be better?
(or do I miss something?)

mapping doesnt really need more damage imo (thats why the 19% from pride are questionable except for maybe legion stuff) but impale offers us a lot of single target and since that was/is the problem of cyclone ill keep them.

for leveling im using war banner because the impale nodes are only taken at ~lvl90. everything impale (banner, nodes, gem) slows you down while leveling imo.

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holdat schrieb:

New to Cyclone. I read some of the replies to this thread, but was still confused.

How are we supposed to manage our mana reserves without Enlighten? What's the optimal setup before we're able to afford an Enlighten in terms of the recommended Pride, Blasphemy, Vulnerability setup.

Thanks.

Even on a 6L, any ring with -8 mana cost makes cyclone free, also takes leap slam cost down to 4! You could use a conqueror's efficiency unique jewel until you get any sort of enlighten lvl 2. Level up enlighten in your offhand in a haku +6% quality to support gems weapon! I put a -9 mana cost craft on my ring and my leap slam is down to 3 cost. Don't even need to get mana leech at all.

How do you have 16% unreserved mana in your PoB build? It doesn't look like it accounts for the 10% res from blood and sand... I have an enlighten lvl 3 and I'm sitting at 2% mana unreserved with blasphemy/pride, banner, blood and sand, and pride.

how come u dont use chance to bleed?

extra chance to bleed/ more bleed dmg/ added phys?

Trying to update PoB a little since new gems are showing up, however not everything is working.

3.7 PoB - first wave of importing/fixes
lvl 100 Disfavour stats

https://pastebin.com/9SUxNc0F

4.61M Shaper Dmg

I'm pretty busy so don't have a lot of time to dive into everything more than a few minutes right now, but it appears PoB still doesn't calculate Impale or Pride correctly.

The 4 extra points on the tree is for a jewel I'm using to correct what PoB doesn't calculate, of course I'm not sure if it's all right or if I'm missing something. Just trying the best thing possible. Feedback welcome!

Jewel has these contents:

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Buffs and stuff
Viridian Jewel
Implicits: 0
#Negating points leading to jewel
-10 strength
-16% armour
#Pride doesn't get calculated right
21% More Damage
#Impale
104% more damage with hits
#Crimson Dance
700% More damage with bleeding
#Slayer Cull
22% More damage
#Slayer Bane
20% increased attack speed
20% increased movement speed

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Ahfack schrieb:

Trying to update PoB a little since new gems are showing up, however not everything is working.

3.7 PoB - first wave of importing/fixes
lvl 100 Disfavour stats

https://pastebin.com/9SUxNc0F

4.61M Shaper Dmg

I'm pretty busy so don't have a lot of time to dive into everything more than a few minutes right now, but it appears PoB still doesn't calculate Impale or Pride correctly.

The 4 extra points on the tree is for a jewel I'm using to correct what PoB doesn't calculate, of course I'm not sure if it's all right or if I'm missing something. Just trying the best thing possible. Feedback welcome!

Jewel has these contents:

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Buffs and stuff
Viridian Jewel
Implicits: 0
#Negating points leading to jewel
-10 strength
-16% armour
#Pride doesn't get calculated right
21% More Damage
#Impale
104% more damage with hits
#Crimson Dance
700% More damage with bleeding
#Slayer Cull
22% More damage
#Slayer Bane
20% increased attack speed
20% increased movement speed

Thank you for keeping this updated!

EDIT: Any reason for not taking the Martial Experience wheel?

Only me didnt uderstand how to swap Pulverize and Impale in same axe coz Pulv is red soc and Impale is green? Or i need ot chose only one? Or i need to have disfavor with white socket?

Hello Ahfack, thanks for this amazing build, have you tried to replace Impale by Rage, i've tried it on your latest POB and the damages were skyrocketting.

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anhtuan3030 schrieb:

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xDmacx schrieb:

Hi Ahfack,

thx for this Build. I got a question about the Gem Links. Your Pastebin show other Gems as u wrote it in your Discription here.

Here Forum Discription

Axe 6L Single Target:
Cyclone | Fortify | Maim | Infused Channeling | Brutality | Impale

Axe 6L Mapping:
Cyclone | Fortify | Maim | Infused Channeling | Brutality | Pulverize

Pastebin Discription:

Axe 6L

Cyclone | Melee Phys Dmg | Maim | Brutality | Damage on Full Life | Chance to Bleed | Fortify

This is wat i see in the Pastebin. Well 7 Gems and ye we can take on this wat some1 preferer like to play. Just a bit Confused wat is now actually wat u rather to play?

Regards

I think you should follow:

Axe 6L Single Target:
Cyclone | Fortify | Maim | Infused Channeling | Brutality | Impale
Axe 6L Mapping:
Cyclone | Fortify | Maim | Infused Channeling | Brutality | Pulverize

Because in POB, he disable | Melee Phys Dmg | Damage on Full Life | Chance to Bleed | Fortify

ty for the Information :)

I live yourl build. Its my primary char. I got few questions though.

Why you dont use Hematophagy?

Why you use Fortyfy linked to cyclone, not to leap? When you leap you get Fortyfy, than you can use Full life support linked to cyclone, it gives higher dmg. Or am I missing something?