Donald Trump and US politics

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The_Reporter schrieb:

Trump frequently purposefully miscalculates his strokes taken per hole, drops a ball to play from a more favorable position when he believes nobody is watching and he also gives himself 'gimmies' on shots that have a great possibility of being missed.

The guy is a scumbag.

And he likes his steak well done! How dare he!

Are you such a super-serious-bro about everything?

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DalaiLama schrieb:

If I'm reading your argument correctly, (the people that live in an area should be allowed to vote in that area) the principle is sound, and I agree it should be a right. However, the laws need to be followed as well, to prevent exploitation, manipulation and ensure that people are citizens (whether naturalized or born) so that they have a vested interest in seeing the place they live in improve.

Otherwise, the DNC could bus in 100,00 people to a small state, completely flip the vote and take control.

It would flip the election dynamics. I would think part of the reason for republican resistance to immigration reform is the fear that giving illegal immigrants and more immigrants citizenship would give votes for the Democrats. It is a calculated risk analysis. Would you let more people become citizens knowingly they would likely vote for the opposing party? You don't send them back or make them citizen and they ended up in limbo. You have illegal immigrants indefinitely.

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MrSmiley21 schrieb:

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The_Reporter schrieb:

Trump frequently purposefully miscalculates his strokes taken per hole, drops a ball to play from a more favorable position when he believes nobody is watching and he also gives himself 'gimmies' on shots that have a great possibility of being missed.

The guy is a scumbag.

And he likes his steak well done! How dare he!

Are you such a super-serious-bro about everything?

I got a chuckle from the "drops a ball to play from a more favorable position"

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DalaiLama schrieb:

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MrSmiley21 schrieb:

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The_Reporter schrieb:

Trump frequently purposefully miscalculates his strokes taken per hole, drops a ball to play from a more favorable position when he believes nobody is watching and he also gives himself 'gimmies' on shots that have a great possibility of being missed.

The guy is a scumbag.

And he likes his steak well done! How dare he!

Are you such a super-serious-bro about everything?

I got a chuckle from the "drops a ball to play from a more favorable position"

I wouldn't trust him. He didn't pay up on one of his lost bet.

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Please stop with the same "boring" arguments. I don't care about Hillary. She can get hit by a bus and I wouldn't care. Trump didn't pay up on money he owes and that is what I care about. Not honoring your gambling debt is unforgivable. It is being a sore loser.

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deathflower schrieb:

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Please stop with the same "boring" arguments. I don't care about Hillary. She can get hit by a bus and I wouldn't care. Trump didn't pay up on money he owes and that is what I care about. Not honoring your gambling debt is unforgivable. It is being a sore loser.

"please stop with the same boring arguments" says the guys who are using the same boring arguments since the elections


NOO NOO !!!! RUSSIA!!! IMPEACH!!!! HUHHHH!!!! he said sexist things!!!! huhhh! He's not presidential!!! sexist!!!!!! ohhhh! He's literaly Hitler.

You don't get to say people use the same arguments when you've been doing the same for the past one year and half.

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diablofdb schrieb:

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deathflower schrieb:

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Please stop with the same "boring" arguments. I don't care about Hillary. She can get hit by a bus and I wouldn't care. Trump didn't pay up on money he owes and that is what I care about. Not honoring your gambling debt is unforgivable. It is being a sore loser.

"please stop with the same boring arguments" says the guys who are using the same boring arguments since the elections


NOO NOO !!!! RUSSIA!!! IMPEACH!!!! HUHHHH!!!! he said sexist things!!!! huhhh! He's not presidential!!! sexist!!!!!! ohhhh! He's literaly Hitler.

You don't get to say people use the same arguments when you've been doing the same for the past one year and half.

Saying Trump didn't honor his gambling debt push your buttons? Don't lump me and everyone together. Lazy stereotypes and generalization isn't gonna get you anywhere. Weak strawman arguments, misrepresentation and misinformation. Typical. Trump is entertaining and funny but he is terrible. He isn't my president. 8 Years of Trump, go ahead. Make him Imperial God Emperor if you want to.

Hey I got a song for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur07OFbHs9c

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deathflower schrieb:

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ScrotieMcB schrieb:

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faerwin schrieb:

There's a big difference between illegals voting and legal citizens voting in a vote deemed illegal.

Is there? I see the distinction but not the difference. If voting is forbidden, do you vote anyway or not?

Better yet. If self determination is deemed as a natural right, why shouldn't everybody be allowed to vote? If it is restricted to the natural born, wouldn't that be privilege rather than a right?

I have stated before the importance of a government not being able to take away rights, and I do think all citizens should have an unalienable right to vote (exception: I don't have an issue with temporary suspension of an incarcerated felon's rights; they're already imprisoned against their will, obviously punishment inherently involves temporary rights violations, which we allow due to the difficulty to obtain false conviction through multiple safeguards).

However, this doesn't mean I'm a citizen of everywhere. For instance, it's silly to allow residents of Alaska to vote for governor of Florida. I have no qualms requiring people to legally renounce their previous citizenship in order to gain a new one and thereby transfer their voting rights. This includes requiring a legal immigration process.

So to clarify, I believe illegal immigrants to the US from Mexico do have a fundamental right to vote... in Mexican, not US, elections. As citizens of Mexico it is the Mexican government's responsibility to ensure such people are not disenfranchised, and the US government's obligation to not impede US residents who aren't US citizens their right to vote in their countries of citizenship. This is not, however, an obligation to allow non-US-citizens to vote in US elections.