Labyrinth - how to lose new players in one quick step.

Well, many thanks to everyone who suggested 1- getting good with my movement skills and 2- having a bit of patience. Did my first successful Lab run today. Pretty cool to upgrade from Duelist to Gladiator. DO I think I'd keep running Lab for the enchantments and mediocre loot? Not for this character, at least not for normal. Maybe Cruel to get a few more sweet ascndency points.

Do I think Lab is poorly designed? Not really. They do give you stashes before Izaro so you can bank the loot you pick up without having to TP out and start over again. THat's good design. DO I think the traps are stupid? No, they add a bit of"pay attention, dude". Once you learn to be patient with them, they're not all that bad once you learn how to work around them, eg, calm down, figure out where to Lightning Warp to. And they fit in nicely with the lore, so win. It can be frustrating to clear an area only to realize you have to go back to the previous area, but that's life I guess.

I am going to try it with my other Breach league characters tonight to see how well this applies, because I'm not sure how well passived and geared they are. But not before trying out the sweet new Word of Inferno enchantment I got on my gloves.

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Back to topic... to the people that like to point: "see, everyone just overlevels lab rather than playing it properly, thats proof that it sucks":
Well guys the thing is: It takes a special kind of player to enjoy playing low level charaters. Thats the reason D3 introduced a gem that removes level requirements on gear, its the reason why red and yellow prestiges on marvel heroes are for "serious" players only, why normal baal bots are so loved on D2 and why wow straight allows you to buy max level for your char. Low level content is awful to do for most people and we just rather zip trough the fastest route that will allow us to reach level 70 and come back to make that eventual side quest that had a more complicated fight and very good reward when we can just one-shot the boss. It aplies to almost every form of low level content and lab just happens to not be an exception

And to the "if lab was so good, enchants wouldnt be so expensive" argument: Lab is not meant to be a valid farm area, that is quite clear when we look at the general loot that you get there. If the devs wanted us to farm lab, izaro would drop stuff on all stages and the silver chests would be at least better than a rare strongbox, for example. Even if you do like the lab its just a not very rewarding place loot speaking, that have been pointed a lot and the devs said that is how its going to stay, so its intentional. When the place's best reward is a one time deal(asc points) and the second good reward is RNG-based with chances heavily againt you(enchant pool) then people are not likely to run it much more than once even if they do like the place

I hate lab and always hated it but that being said I learned how to play lab efficiently. I go there when I'm geared and ready to go there. I use poe lab site guide and only do lab when I have to since I feel lab run is like a chore. Not reason to quit game. There is a lot of other content beside lab and for uber lab you can always pay someone to carry you through.

Firstly Merry Christmas.

I think lab / trials have the same problem Diablo 3 has with its set dungeons. Both Blizzard and GGG introduced arcade game play to an arpg in an attempt to bring something fresh to the hack and slash genre.

I can see their respective intentions but I haven't ran into many players that 'Love' them.

I have on very rare occasions drawn comparisons between D3 and poe but on this topic both companies seem to be mirroring each other:

poe new league: run lab (again) because besides its active skill boost it also gives you a funky in game portrait :P

D3 new season: run set dungeon (again) to earn a complete class set which basically jumps you from T2-T6 and then its gg'


Arpgs are full of repetition but the world isn't ready for arpg / arcade hybrids.



ps. rip'd on more than one occasion to trial traps (in hc) but I have finally got the hang of each trial. Feels good once you know how. Down side = I rarely play poe now and instead just play Super Mario brothers.

Well I'm new been playing for about 2 weeks now and about 3hr each day if I'm lucky and 0 when I'm not.
I hate the lab too and wonder why I need to go through all those crap just to get 2 skill point but rest of of the game so far are still good enough that I'm playing it. One way I get pass it is get my friend run with me fyi I only got 2 person and one I met in lab run normal and add him, but I have seen bunch of other people paying 2-4c for a lab run just which is easy enough to earn if you bother checking with the market. Be a cheapo like me and I wait for about 3-5 days and stumble on to someone who was running lab for free. From time and time I have seen people doing free lab run if you are willing to spend some time to do it. I do agree the lab run is quite buggy for me when I meet Izaro my fps dips or I get a straight DC for gods know why.

So cry all you want just because you can't handle the trap which is for real a ass sometimes but doable if you pot and time it right unless you have 0 patience for it. You just want to spend no effort and get everything not gonna happen.

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ps. rip'd on more than one occasion to trial traps (in hc) but I have finally got the hang of each trial. Feels good once you know how. Down side = I rarely play poe now and instead just play Super Mario brothers.

+1
Playtime down to 1-2h a day (if i even bother to log in)

MTX & Stashtabs purchases down to 0 not supporting anymore

dev egotrip made this whole lab issues unbearable ignoring hundreds of posts/threads with the occasional suck it or leave

5 stages of grief mine is acceptance i dont play lab i dont particpate in trade dont support dont advertise the game anymore the new breach league is again a major fps fuck up

went from grinding like mad to fuck this shit bet iam not the only one

Normal lab = DO it at lvl 35~45
Cruel lab = DO it at lvl 50~70
Mercilesss = Do it at lvl 70+
Bring 2 Quicksilver with +15/20 extra charge, 2 Instant flask with bleeding removal at your level, 1 50% applied instantly flask at your level..
Have a movement skill with atkspeed/fastcast.

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ventiman schrieb:

+1
Playtime down to 1-2h a day (if i even bother to log in)

MTX & Stashtabs purchases down to 0 not supporting anymore

dev egotrip made this whole lab issues unbearable ignoring hundreds of posts/threads with the occasional suck it or leave

5 stages of grief mine is acceptance i dont play lab i dont particpate in trade dont support dont advertise the game anymore the new breach league is again a major fps fuck up

went from grinding like mad to fuck this shit bet iam not the only one

Why don't you just leave? I get you've put a LOT in here but answer this: do you think this is gonna change for the better? If the answer is 'no' then you know it's time to go.

You are not in 'acceptance'. You are still somewhere in between 'bargaining' and 'depression'. Good luck to you, man. Remember gaming doesn't end with 'path of exile'.

(Don't be mad at me, don't go back to 'anger') :)

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Zdzislaw32 schrieb:

Couple more tries and im done. I dont need this game and this game doesn't need me.
Peace.

Yeah, GGG don't like new players - no old ones. We are many who have complained for a while, and quite a few old players have quit because of this.

But GGG insists that the ones who do not like the labyrinth is a "loud minority". So yeah, they won't change a thing for anyone.

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BacktoHell schrieb:

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ventiman schrieb:

+1
Playtime down to 1-2h a day (if i even bother to log in)

MTX & Stashtabs purchases down to 0 not supporting anymore

dev egotrip made this whole lab issues unbearable ignoring hundreds of posts/threads with the occasional suck it or leave

5 stages of grief mine is acceptance i dont play lab i dont particpate in trade dont support dont advertise the game anymore the new breach league is again a major fps fuck up

went from grinding like mad to fuck this shit bet iam not the only one

Why don't you just leave? I get you've put a LOT in here but answer this: do you think this is gonna change for the better? If the answer is 'no' then you know it's time to go.

You are not in 'acceptance'. You are still somewhere in between 'bargaining' and 'depression'. Good luck to you, man. Remember gaming doesn't end with 'path of exile'.

(Don't be mad at me, don't go back to 'anger') :)

What ? No Since i play ssf Game is a whole new feeling