[outdated] King of the Forest (Crit version)

Hi I have followed this guide to level 84. I find that the 2 pts invested into druidic rite and mana can be refunded and used elsewhere. Are there any mana shortage situations faced when those pts are not there?

p.s. I am not using any mana pots in my belt, no added maximum mana and no mana leech in gear. Using the standard auras of grace + AA.

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Trippatonia schrieb:

Hi I have followed this guide to level 84. I find that the 2 pts invested into druidic rite and mana can be refunded and used elsewhere. Are there any mana shortage situations faced when those pts are not there?

p.s. I am not using any mana pots in my belt, no added maximum mana and no mana leech in gear. Using the standard auras of grace + AA.

That keystone works for all flasks. Not just mana flask. I'm sure those points are worth it just for the longer flask duration and faster recharge.

What do you think about using a raider to maintain frenzy charges with snake bites?

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Lethardus schrieb:

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This is what I am currently using. 3.5k HP and 10k Evasion, unbuffed. I have a ton of hp coming in my tree and actually am about to respec a few points so those numbers will be changing.

What do you mean by "good rates" ?

My bad it's just typo, using phone. "Rare"

Btw, I had 4k hp before I reach lv 70, 8-12k evasion (don't remember precisely)

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OakenHeart schrieb:

What do you think about using a raider to maintain frenzy charges with snake bites?

It will give you easier control & higher speed, but less damage. You have to compensate for crit loss (which is massive) and 2x poison damage. (Double poison dmg on crit strike)

Got it this morning, time for Dying Sun. Feels good

What do you all think about the slayer version of this build? I was reading one guys post who plays basically this version but as slayer and the leech is so insane you never need to use pots again.

I would lose dps a bit but to have that leech o my.

damn this thread is gaining pages so quickly i cant keep up lol.

however its mostly the same questions all over again so I'll try to answer the FAQ:


Q: what about immortal call how do we get endurance charges
A: We don't. Immortal call has a base duration of 0.4 seconds even without endurance charges... with increased duration that is almost 1 second which is enough

Q: What gem setup for opus on Lighting arrow?
A: Try the same setup as for reach. If you don't like only having 3 arrows, you can try replacing slower proj. with LEsser multiple projectiles, but I didn't like that. Getting a +1drillneck early helps here.

Q: What about Tornado shot?
A: Yes it is great too, but I personally hate it and I like Lightning Arrow much more.

Q: Can you have a look at my gear and tell me what to do next
A: Check out my progression thread: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1775830 and copy my steps if you are unsure. Usually it will go like this:

1. Opus 5L + 5L chest 2. devoto 3. decent rares 4. 6L queen 5. chaos craft jewlry 6. +1drillneck 7. Reach 8. Dying sun 9. +2devoto 10.vuln gloves (optional)

Q: I die alot this build sux omg
A: Don't facetank shit. Keep moving around. Use an Instant life flasks in risky situations. Be sure to have gear with life on it, dont do red maps before you have 5k life, dont do yellow maps before you have 4k life. Be sure to be at max. charges. The last two ascendancies are important so don't judge the build before you have that.

Q: What about Ascendancies? Isn't it better to go Toxic delivery first?
A: I dont really know, I havent tried it, but it might be. You can test yourself.

Q: What about Raider for this build ?
A: It's good, raider is faster than Assassin, but less crit and only about half as much damage as Assassin, so you need really good gear or it will suck. With really good gear I mean 20ex investment minimum.

Can't use Devoto as can't afford to lose resistances over there, not really making any profit via drops and trades, so yeah. And I'm a filthy casual, no much time due to job.
Used Death's Harp until merciless dried lake, when I used up all of my chaos to buy prophecy for upgrading to Opus.
Leveling is smooth, damage is nothing to laugh at, sitting at 4110 hp, 12k evasion, at lv73.
Lower life than I expected, but should be fixed later on, since I'm about to branch out to scion and marauder at this point.
A tad bit different setup, still low end maps, so it works wonderfully. No luck with rarity+culling on blink arrow, at all :D
Still no cwdt setup, and using frenzy-gmp-coh-vulnerability for cursing manualy, until I properly corrupt snakebites, then will switch to cwdt setup.
Plenty of room for upgrades on gear, this is mostly what I dropped, so we can say the gear is about 70% self found.
No luck with drops and trades, so I'm sitting currently at 3 chaos :D
Buuuuut, for a casual like me, this build seems to be working out, it's like the better, tankier version of former AssReacher.
Can't afford all of those +1 drillnecks nor any six links, and I'm using split arrow instead of lightning arrow (although lightning arrow gem is leveling for when I get reach), just because I don't like using lmp or gmp due to less modifiers. Works fine, 9 arrows is decent aoe coverage as it is, although no shock. Went for Toxic Delivery first.
So, my point is, for now, the build is valid and strong, in both, defense and offense, and works well even for filthy casual like me who can play about 3-4 hours per day.
Very well written, well thought and made, with everything one needs to know.
I can only recommend it to others as well, and thank you for sharing.

Q: What about Ascendancies? Isn't it better to go Toxic delivery first?

A: As someone who tried both ways, I think I can tell that toxic delivery first is the way to go.
The damage on bosses is by far superior and makes mapping in general easier and faster. To compensate the missing crit chance, I invested 2 points into the crit nodes before Heartseeker (2 x 25%) for now and will reinvest those nodes in life, as soon as I'm done with Uberlab.