(3.2) [Lighty] 2H RT Cyclone: Dope for Beast League & Lab™

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Kliops144 schrieb:

1more q) So, if i'm going Juggernaut i don't have anymore need in side generation of endurance charges? Or this class passive is not enought to get charges?

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Xavathos schrieb:

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Noomnahor schrieb:

This may be a stupid question, and I'm sorry if it's been answered (I couldn't find a way to search replies), but how do you generate endurance charges with this build?
I can see the Juggernaut ascendancy path gives a 30% chance on hit to generate a charge, but what if you choose another path and/or class?
I just can't see an ability that helps generate them, yet one of the utilities is immortal all. Am I just misunderstanding the use of immortal call here? (do you actually not need endurance charges?)

I'm clearly just a bit confused and happily admit to being a noob so any help here would be amazing, cheers!

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Xavathos schrieb:

Number of ways to work Endurance charges in.

One is playing Juggernaut and putting your face in between angry things and what they are angry at.

Another is the manual use of Warlord's Mark. Not recommended.

You would be better off putting it on a blasphemy, but you'll need Enlighten 4 (or 2 in Atziri's Disfavour) to be able to use a Herald and Hatred still with a curse. Even then you need Blood Magic support on Cyclone because you'd have 99% reserved mana.

Alternatively you could run Curse on Hit with a Herald of Ice (Ash doesn't work because it doesn't hit) or Cast When Damage Taken setups with Warlord's Mark to gain endurance charges, as suggested by Archimtiros. The latter is the best option in this case. Herald of Ice has no place in this build.

Another very common and easy way is Enduring Cry. Very easy to spam, nifty short boost to life regen as a bonus. Good on bosses too, where the curse will fail you unless it has many adds.

One more alternative is the use of Tidebreaker (2H mace). This weapon will link the support gem Endurance charge on melee stun to your cyclone for free, with 10% inc phy dmg per charge as a bonus.

I believe Lighty said on stream that he was going to be using Tidebreaker, which would explain the lack of charge generators in his guide.

There are other gear related ways to gain charges, such as Daresso's Defiance and Vengeance/Stun/Charge on Melee Stun, but these are generally not as practical for Cyclone builds.

Read my quote above. :)
No such thing as stupid questions.

Just edited it going a little lighter on the abbreviations, considering you're a new player. My bad!

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madsrahbek schrieb:

I need some help with my build, currently I can't farm tier 1 maps, simply because I die.

A link to my char https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/madsrahbek/characters

(The only character I have in harbinger league)

HP is currently at 2900...

my res uncapped are (138,116,119) (fire,cold,light)

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Xavathos schrieb:

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Tsicafrou schrieb:

You can also try Vengeance + Stun + End Charge on Melee Stun

Suffers from the same downside as Juggernaut. You need to get hit. Except it's worse because:

You need to get hit.
You need Vengeance to proc 30%, or 40% if max quality.
Something then needs to be alive to get hit by Vengeance near you as a Cyclone build.
Finally, Vengeance needs to successfully stun that target. Low damage without damage links means very low chance to stun, depending on mob max life compared to damage if the hit. Weak mobs won't survive to hit you in the first place, strong ones will resist getting stunned.

You see the point? In theory it works. In practice, I highly doubt it. Also... 3 sockets vs. 1 if using Enduring Cry.