[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses
" Is that 25k before added charge effects ? |
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" Its with HoI + Hatred on, but without frenzy charges. |
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Hey guys for harcore LA, what changes i need made in my tree.
Someone can share your experience in harcore |
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" Thats nice m8, Its also 10k above mine im at 14k+ before charges |
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Was wondering if someone can help me out with how to move forward with my character. I'm level 91 character is dendi_nado. I was able to buy a great harbinger and I was lucky to get the enchant from uber labs onto my starkonjas for the double barrage. I feel kind of weak though, any suggestions to my character would be great :)
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" I'm 83 here and to be honest from the looks of it i feel like this build unless you min-max it is mediocre simply for the very fact that it can't do specific content of the game and is trying to avoid it like a plague, talking about Reflect. I have died so many times while doing non-reflect maps, e.g. while clearing fast encountering a Rare mob with Reflect and dying in less than a sec because to be honest the build outputs a lot of damage and not even Immortal Call is enough to help it out. Those random deaths whose hits are not even from the mobs itself are the worst anticlimatic thing i have ever encountered in this game. Unless the new version of the build - since this one is outdated right now - fixes somehow the issues it suffers i can not imagine it being an easy/healthy build to progress, only for min-max. From my point of view Scion looks like a better Ranger than Ranger itself since Scion can spec into Elementalist and gain 50% Elemental Reflect Resistance, something which is rare as a stat. |
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immortal call isn't going to do anything if you follow the guide and go elemental conversion.
use pure phys damage or get the anti reflect pantheon skill and unique ring. |
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" Yeah i felt it first hand Immortal Call was not enough, so we skip the conversion of Physical to Elemental damage in our main skill (e.g. Tornado Shot) ? If we remove "Elemental Damage with Attacks Support" and "Physical to Lighting Support", with which gems can we replace them to make up for the lost damage ? I have been using the Yugul to make up for the Reflect however its not enough, it helps tho but still not enough. About the rings i suppose you are talking about "Sibyl's Lament" ? Didn't know its existance tbh and i suppose it would help, 40% Resistance along with 25% from Yugul is a lot however is it a good option for late game ? I am not sure, i have never been to end game to know |
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" Sorry to sound rude but you should learn a thing or two about itemization before throwing out such verdicts... You are playing a life build in 2017 and are neglecting life rolls everywhere. A 5l chest with 90+ life takes like...4c to craft. Buying a belt is a joke as well. What about the gloves? Its not about minmaxing, just trying to get somewhere... On top of that you are using Lioneye's Glare out of all bows and are complaining that the build is not reflect viable. Sure, if you stack all the reflect vulnerabilty in the game, it isnt. TS said clearly enough that you should try to get life everywhere - to the point of picking Kaoms as BiS. I don't agree with some of Neversinks choices either..but sometimes its hard to believe what's going on here. People (not just you but the majority here) are playing a T1 build with a possible T0 singletarget yet its too weak at killing bosses and not viable. There is a thread of someone doing Shaper+ all Guardians with Qotf and Windripper. Without +2 barrage. And Windripper isnt exactly your go-to bosskiller bow. |
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" I find no rudeness in such things, if someone believes he is right he should just express it because in the end its justified.I know what the chest is archaic since i have it from 2014 and i'm poor to 5/6 link anything proper, i got Queen of the Forest and i can't 5 link it with rng so i'm trying to farm the fuses to do it via the bench 100% . I can't imagine how much another ~60Lv Rare Chest would help because it would have +70 HP when i go 2.9k - 0 in a single second. I can't imagine how 70 HP from here and 80HP from there would help at all, the Reflect taken is like 5k - 5k since Tornado shot shoots many projectiles and you eat all that back. I don't feel like going from 2.9K to 3.4K (with good rolls in chest/jewels) would do much. I got Lioneye's Glare because the guide itself recommends it and its super cheap (1c) for the stats it offers compared to a good roll Harbinger. I know its anticlimatic to focus on Evasion and have a bow which makes your shots non reflectable but for now i can't do much until i get a good Harbinger. How would NS's gloves help me ? Of course his choice is superior compared to my cheap stuff which i got years ago but how would (according to the guide) Shadows and Dust help ? Like his says they offer no defensive options (in terms of HP) just more damage which at this point is the exact opposite of what we want since more damage dealt = more damage taken from reflects. Kaom's sits on 3/4ex right now so yeah not for me yet if i had 3ex i would not have archaic gloves/chest in the first place. Plus doesn't Kaom's have downsides too ? To get that sweet 500HP you are sacrificing a 6 link slot and your biggest source of Evasion which is needed vs Phys dmg since we have no armor/we run Acrobatics, doesn't look like a direct upgrade to my eyes. So our main AoE skill (Tornado Shot) will be 6 linked and our 2nd/single target (Barrage i guess ?) will be forced to 4linking Hence why in the end of the day i feel like its good if min-maxed or if you are rich enough from previous chars and can buy some expensive stuff (not all) to skip parts of progress and the growth pain. I just saw Windripper, didn't knew about it and it looks nice for farming right ? I guess Herald of Ice/Thunder proc the Item Rarity/Quantity (?) I will search for the guide you talked about and wait for kompaniet's gems recommendation to go back from Elemental to Physical |
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