[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

hello,

LvL 73, Build 2, LA / BAR Scion here.

Should i go first for the ranger/shadow ( still not sure what to take ) ascend, or for Elementalist ?

and as i read several pages before...Innervate shock dont work, if linked with HoT ?

is this correct?

greetings

p.s. and thx a lot to all the players and ofc to the guidemaker for sharing their knowledge ;)

p.p.s and sry for that bad english
IGN: _BowJob
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BigMac_McD schrieb:
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ZacharyWeekend schrieb:
Kind of an unrelated question specific to the build but is there a certain way to get the uber lab unlocked quicker ? Does it matter what tier map you are doing ? I've got half of the Trials done in the beginning and i can't seem to get newer trials that i need. Any tips or tricks to do this ?



Nope, we just keep running more maps until all the trials pop-up.

Or...you could get your friends / guild members to invite you to their map when they have the trials that you need.

Cool thanks for the help, too bad have no friends in this game hahaha
I am 89 and clearing up through t13 easy. 14s bosses are hard and15 bosses well...might not have portals left when I finish. I know I need to level my gems more, changed for quality recently but what else can I do? I dropped frenzy and blood rage because I was having a hard time keep hp up. My damage feels high but still don't feel I have enough leach. Next upgrade plan is to do + barrage rats nest but that might be a very very long time. Not sure if better bang for the buck short term
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Klassenliste schrieb:
And now i read that a lioneyes Glare Bow with 350dps is better than a 400dps harbinger in view of damage. But the lioneye is much cheaper.



are you sure about this? couldnt find the post you mentioned, but if you have decent ammounts of crit multiplier from your gear/passives, a harbinger should do way more dmg since you have a huge increase in critchance. i really cant see how the lioneye should have higher dps. am i missing sth?
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markanthonyfrugal schrieb:
@diqq

improvement: for increase DPS

bow : get max rolled lioneye's its better than 400PDPS. (i have 410PDPS+80EDPS but lioneyes 350 beats it)
rings and amulet : get more flat dmg + criticals
belt : max p.dmg + high e.dmg
helm : enchanted with t/s 40% increase dmg or +2 secondary projectile
boots : crafted with +elemental damage and uber enchanted with +damage when hit or haven't killed , increase attack speed if youve killed, incease critical if havnt crit.
curse : elemental weakness is better you wont see the numbers in tooltip but on POB it will show you a huge difference between active elemental weakness againt assasins mark with +power charges on (still elementl weakness is far superior)
buff : get a blood rage good way for life leech, increase attack speed and freny charges
lastly your gem links: by far this is best 20%20lvl gems for loneyes+signal fire : t/s+ gmp+ e.dmg+ e.focus+ addedLightning/cold+ slowerProjectile (or download POB and see the links better for your gear selections)

@hekktorr
to get constitution im not taking the nodes going to revange of the haunted and vaal pact (im not fan of this node as i want regen)

That is exaclty what i am talking about. I got the info from page 934.
I am not sure anymore if i should follow this guide in the future. Neversink created a nice detailled guide for the past patches. Some weeks ago he updated it a bit for 3.0 but until now he ignores everything. The doomfletchers guide sounds really interesting but i already put too much currency in this one. Dont know if it was worth it. It is really frustrating when you follow a guide and like me baught with all your currency a bow like it is recommendet only to get to know some days later on a random forum page of the guide that your bow is bad and a cheaper one has more damage.
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Klassenliste schrieb:
I am not sure anymore if i should follow this guide in the future. Neversink created a nice detailled guide for the past patches. Some weeks ago he updated it a bit for 3.0 but until now he ignores everything. The doomfletchers guide sounds really interesting but i already put too much currency in this one. Dont know if it was worth it. It is really frustrating when you follow a guide and like me baught with all your currency a bow like it is recommendet only to get to know some days later on a random forum page of the guide that your bow is bad and a cheaper one has more damage.



I think different bows will have it's own pros and cons. Some bows are great at shooting from long distance (Lioneye's Glare), and some shines tremendously at short distance (Chin Sol). A high crit harbinger bow is versatile at any distance, and gives a consistent overall damage. Judging a bow based purely on pDPS alone is not an accurate way of knowing which one is better than the other.

It all depends on your preferred choice of playstyle. We need to experiment on different bows and find out which one is better suited for ourselves.

As for me, i love playing glasscannon style. I dont mind dying all the time, as long as i can facetank and shoot the muth* fu*ka outta the boss in the shortest time possible...lol.... and that is why I use a Chin-sol as my preferred bow.

Don't be disappointed yet for spending 10ex on your harbinger bow. U may find yourself liking it better once u have tried out other bows and combinations :)



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Klassenliste schrieb:
I am not sure anymore if i should follow this guide in the future. Neversink created a nice detailled guide for the past patches. Some weeks ago he updated it a bit for 3.0 but until now he ignores everything. The doomfletchers guide sounds really interesting but i already put too much currency in this one. Dont know if it was worth it. It is really frustrating when you follow a guide and like me baught with all your currency a bow like it is recommendet only to get to know some days later on a random forum page of the guide that your bow is bad and a cheaper one has more damage.


I'm on the same page i invested in the build in both Passive Tree and Gear but its not ready yet for 3.0 and we need to wait for NS to update it, however he is working on his Doomfletch now so i guess its gonna take a long time before he adjust the TS build for 3.0 since he has to write a big wall of text on the original post about it, the guide etc and then move back to TS.

In my opinion he should finalize the adjustments of an already existent build which would be faster too since he has ~92Lv Rangers already before he jumped on the Doomfletch, however it is his choice so we can't do much about it. In the end of the day he volunteers, its free.

Still tho it would be really nice to get a small announcement post about what direction is the TS gonna go, a placeholder until he comes back to finalize it.
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markanthonyfrugal schrieb:
@diqq

improvement: for increase DPS

bow : get max rolled lioneye's its better than 400PDPS. (i have 410PDPS+80EDPS but lioneyes 350 beats it)
rings and amulet : get more flat dmg + criticals
belt : max p.dmg + high e.dmg
helm : enchanted with t/s 40% increase dmg or +2 secondary projectile
boots : crafted with +elemental damage and uber enchanted with +damage when hit or haven't killed , increase attack speed if youve killed, incease critical if havnt crit.
curse : elemental weakness is better you wont see the numbers in tooltip but on POB it will show you a huge difference between active elemental weakness againt assasins mark with +power charges on (still elementl weakness is far superior)
buff : get a blood rage good way for life leech, increase attack speed and freny charges
lastly your gem links: by far this is best 20%20lvl gems for loneyes+signal fire : t/s+ gmp+ e.dmg+ e.focus+ addedLightning/cold+ slowerProjectile (or download POB and see the links better for your gear selections)

@hekktorr
to get constitution im not taking the nodes going to revange of the haunted and vaal pact (im not fan of this node as i want regen)



but where is the math behind this statement? it states that the lioneye dmg is higher but i dont get how he comes to this conclusion. My harbinger with ~9-10% critchance does way less pdps than my lioneye, which i used before but it has higher dps overall with the huge increase in critchance. shouldnt a harbinger with higher dmg deal way more dmg than a lioneye? maybe the harbinger he used had a crappy critchance? (which is the most important stat on the bow). i just dont get it.

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