[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

No no it's another build.


HoI - poachers mark - warlords mark - curse on hit

So how does this setup work? After shattering an enemy, Herald of Ice's explosion will trigger and apply Warlord's & Poacher's Mark to enemies hit by the explosion. Arc will then chain to those enemies and in best case kill them, which gives us not just additional leech, but also provides us endurance & frenzy charges. It will also override our defensive curses, but we don't care about that if the enemy is getting killed within the next milliseconds anyway. If it survives, the defensive curses will trigger again if needed.

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QKrizQ schrieb:

No no it's another build.


HoI - poachers mark - warlords mark - curse on hit

So how does this setup work? After shattering an enemy, Herald of Ice's explosion will trigger and apply Warlord's & Poacher's Mark to enemies hit by the explosion. Arc will then chain to those enemies and in best case kill them, which gives us not just additional leech, but also provides us endurance & frenzy charges. It will also override our defensive curses, but we don't care about that if the enemy is getting killed within the next milliseconds anyway. If it survives, the defensive curses will trigger again if needed.

You have double curse ammy? Sounds nice,i just get power charges from HoI-curse on hit-assassins mark and frenzy from blood rage. If you build high enough dps you'll find that you don't need a long ic. Just enough to ensure you won't get hit by all the leapers and rhoas in 0.5 seconds and die. But if it works for you keep it.

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QKrizQ schrieb:

Well for my witch im using the setup with cwdt-frostwall-enfeeble and curse on hit (to get the charges) in connection with heralds of ice. But I guess this is too much int for this build? whats your setup so far? Just searching for a nice one since a good setup saved my witchlife a lot :P

IC+Inc Dur+Enfeeble

Usually it's fine, also IC last long enough, but I need one-two more "layers" of defence.

Actually I'm also casting enfeeble with cwdt with my witch. So that would three curses, but I speced the "double curse for enemies"-passive point. I guess this setup is not working for ranger as well. :/

Immortal call was useful for me in reflect maps only before 2.0.
Outside those maps only the first second or so was useful,like now. Things are mostly dead after so no big deal. I just don't do phys reflect maps anymore.
Enfeeble would be my choice to,always been in the past.

Hello looking to see where I can upgrade my gear! I have been trying to link my bow for a while now (about 200 fusings in)..have made about 4ex mapping and i feel like i cant go higher than 76s...let me know if any major link is missing!

6L or trade up for a better wep? i have about 1700 fusings,900 chaos, 6 ex and a handful of other stuff. if i upgrade id probably sell this bow

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PsOfOs schrieb:

I'm pretty sure that leech is instant with acuity,hitting reflect mob with 120k frenzy over 50k per crit hit and losing just 1k life.
I'd be surely dead if not instant leeching. 0.4% leech that is.

Again, then, explain this: (I linked it once already in similar discussion here)

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1095484

look at his 2.0 theory crafting...

dude has 1000+ exalt gear, has videos that you can look at (pre 2.0) etc.

Also, ANY reflect map before patch 2.0 I could do by just using LL gem. Same gear, same or similar setups, doesn't matter really. Now I can do them but have to gem separately for each one of them, and god forbid I encounter the opposite type of reflect mob in the map :/ But then again, I could have done that even before the 2.0, but I didn't had to.

Like I said before, I tried it with vaal pact + LL gem with lesser damage than you have and I offed myself instantly. Had to change gems to opposite of reflect type.

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Ludak021 schrieb:

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PsOfOs schrieb:

I'm pretty sure that leech is instant with acuity,hitting reflect mob with 120k frenzy over 50k per crit hit and losing just 1k life.
I'd be surely dead if not instant leeching. 0.4% leech that is.

Again, then, explain this: (I linked it once already in similar discussion here)

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1095484

look at his 2.0 theory crafting...

dude has 1000+ exalt gear, has videos that you can look at (pre 2.0) etc.

Also, ANY reflect map before patch 2.0 I could do by just using LL gem. Same gear, same or similar setups, doesn't matter really. Now I can do them but have to gem separately for each one of them, and god forbid I encounter the opposite type of reflect mob in the map :/ But then again, I could have done that even before the 2.0, but I didn't had to.

Like I said before, I tried it with vaal pact + LL gem with lesser damage than you have and I offed myself instantly. Had to change gems to opposite of reflect type.

Life leech gem was 9%,it's 2% now. I'm not talking about reflect maps,i talk about reflect mobs.
Leech with acuity is instant on critical strikes.
You not surviving it does not mean it is not. You just don't leech enough.
I hit reflect mob and my life just drops a bit, By your explanation it should drop a lot and then get full again instantly. That does not happen. I survive any reflect mob,not map,any time any day.
Before 2.0 i could do reflect maps. Now i can't because leech is 1/4 of what it was,not because acuity doesn't work as before. vaal pact is half the leech it was.

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Ludak021 schrieb:

Like I said before, I tried it with vaal pact + LL gem with lesser damage than you have and I offed myself instantly. Had to change gems to opposite of reflect type.

with this setup you'll 1-shot yourself as long as you don't have any way to leech also ele damage. You don't use neither Warlords nor Life Leech and shoot with PtL+WED. So you deal like dunno 100-150k per sec on average? And around 15 max 20% of it is phys, whitch gives you say, 2% of itself as uninstan leech. Nothing extraordinary you 1-gib urself sometimes. I used this setup on eva in 1.3 wit LGlare, so I know the issue. Another thing is that if your leech don't apply instantly, u must do pauses literaly after every shot and wait till hp refils. Plus use some AoE and try to hit as many other mobs as possible together with the reflecting one. Also don't use any dps-boosting curse on ref mob. And so on and so on.

PtL+WED is ok if you lack dmg on eq imo, or if you're really like big numbers. With such bow as yours you can get more picky - Hatred + Added Fire makes whole toolpit nice enough with 50%phys/25%fire/25%cold damage. Leeches ok, aplies freezings, dont suffer from ele.eq mod. on maps ... but then again you need some mitigation against phys dmg...and so on. But srsly it's doable, I have bow like yours, 75% phys dmg and I kill myself only when I screw something.