Fix loot tables

There was quite extensive testing done by some streamers and it shows that T7 maps and below have 60% more divine orb + annulment drops compared to t15 maps. I don't know if this is intended or not, but it sure seems like it shouldn't be working this way. Can you just put greater and perfect orbs in the same loot table or loot pool as regular currencies? Spamming T7 maps because it gives more divine and annul and chaos drops seems counter intuitive to people doing harder content and getting less rewards for it? What's going on here?
A reply would be nice

Farham's testing was the opposite of extensive. If you don't realize how many variables weren't controlled for, you can't understand what you're saying. Even if it were true that you'd acquire 60% more divines in T7's, you will never see items that are able to roll the highest stats, or two socketed gloves and boots, etc.

The tests were extensive enough for a huge population of the player base to actually go and try this method, and take it from me, one of the first things you notice is the actual frequency and consistency of chaos orb drops, it literally feels like you get twice the amount of chaos drops vs t15s. So what's to give here?

Jackpots should not be considered for these types of tests, considering the rarity of a coveted exceptional item, it has no place, nor an avenue of comparison for the sheer amount of raw currency drops we are tracking. We are looking at raw valuable currency drops, and when you are getting 60% more chaos, annulment and divine orbs, at the end of the day, you are getting less rewards for doing harder content.

What's the problem? You can farm divines at the cost of no useful items, no experience and no greater or perfect orbs. It's reasonable tradeoff imo.

I mean GGG fails to make a good loot table and i think some fixing is needed, but the upsides in T7 dont outweight the downsides.

You cant get Perfect Exalts/Chaos and Greater Exalt/Chaos

You cant get Ancient abyss stuff

you cant get high level omens including whittling

You dont really get EXP

You dont get useful exceptional items

No Bursting Decay (Ilv 81)
No Death Articulated (iLv 75)
No Rathpit (iLv 76)
No Alpha Howl (iLv 73)

and many more uniques u can tget in T7

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aykim043#3413 schrieb:

The tests were extensive enough for a huge population of the player base to actually go and try this method, and take it from me, one of the first things you notice is the actual frequency and consistency of chaos orb drops, it literally feels like you get twice the amount of chaos drops vs t15s. So what's to give here?

Jackpots should not be considered for these types of tests, considering the rarity of a coveted exceptional item, it has no place, nor an avenue of comparison for the sheer amount of raw currency drops we are tracking. We are looking at raw valuable currency drops, and when you are getting 60% more chaos, annulment and divine orbs, at the end of the day, you are getting less rewards for doing harder content.

Smh you can't tell me to ignore all dropped items besides currency and then say that you're getting less rewards. You also can't claim that extensive testing was done (it wasn't; you're appealing to objectivity) then say that you "feel" like more chaos orbs are dropping.

And just for fun, the video doesn't say they got 60% more div drops. It says they got over 220% more div drops. Do you really think that's true? It could be, but I'd need to see more than 26 maps run to believe it.

If people like to do boring easy content just so they stack divine so be it.
Couldnt care less tbh. Their loss.
Some people only play for the "casino" side of the game. They need something to get busy too.

As other mentioned, planty of way to get good drops on T15+. How much divine is worth a 3 sockets lvl82 body armour or weapon?

I will never understand why carring so much of what other do. It sound so boring to do that T7 maps method i wouldnt want to be there. They deserve reward for all that time waste into boredom.

Seems people are failing to grasp basic arpg concepts here.

When a lower tier map drops the most valuable currencies (up to 60% more than the hardest content) You have a fundamental problem with how the game works. I don't understand how people come here and defend an obviously faulty core mechanic of the game.

Sure you bring up chase uniques, but what are the chances of those dropping? 1/100 maps? Why do you even bring up such topics that are irrelevant to the convo here.

We are talking about a steady stream of valuable currencies that you can expect to see EVERY MAP, not 1/100 maps. It does not matter that on my 100th t15, a rathpith drops, because the sheer amount of divs I got from the t7 maps FAR outweigh that single chase unique.

Please don't spew your dense logic here

its you!

You don't need to play T17
You don't need to run 500 affix maps
You choose to , cause someone put a big shiny carrot on a stick, and hung it out in front of you.

But the risk to reward is way out!

When you run T7 what is missing ..
All the carrots.

But chaos orbs and other currencies are falling in all tiers.
So instead of 10 items dropping 6 top tier items 3 mid and a shit.
You get 7 mid tier items and 3 shits.

But currency is mid tier so by reducing the difficulty , you limit the loot pool and increase the odds for lower tier loot, which would be expected as you plot that distribution across difficulties ..

If the loots were ... you get all 10 items , and then a bonus pool of items drop from difficulty that would be what you are expecting.

So name me some of the top tier items, exclude items that drop 1 out of 100 maps

You know all of the powerful runes drop it t7 too right?

I'll wait, go ahead and name some top tier items that drop in t15s that don't in t7s